The New Tone Thread

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Telegram Sam said:
? what??
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I didn't understand your explanation. Maybe it's cuz I just woke up from a nap.

I like the dirt in your tone, but that clip is weird. Sounds hollow, then slowly gets better like the amp is warming up as you played. Is that what happened?
 
No, I did three tone settings on the lead pick up (my lead pickup is wired to the tone control):
Rolled back
set to 7
open,

then neck pickup,

then a bit of the greenback with the lead pickup at the end.

I put the SM57 about halfway between the cone and the edge...
 
Ooooooohhhhhhh I see. You were rolling the tone knob. That explains it.
 
So which time in the clip has the best tone thru your studio monitors?
 
miroslav said:
Try a Hagstrom Swede (or most any Hag) if you ever get a chance. :cool:

I never could get into the Strat/Tele thing too much. I have a sweet '52 RI Tele, and I use it from time to time...but I never liked the neck, especially the smaller radius fretboard that many Strat/Teles seem to have. I'm looking to get another Tele, I want a Thinline, but it will probably be with a custom, flatter neck.

LPs often have what I perceive as fat/chunky necks...some guys love them, buy they feel a bit 2x4-ish too me, though overall, I can play on them easy enough.
Love my Hagstrom necks though...but then, I've been playing Hagstrom Swedes forever... :) ...and their RI models feel almost the same as their vintage stuff. Very easy on the hand, and super-fast/smooth.
It's a narrower and flatter-back neck, and the RI models have a 15" radius (pretty sure the vintage are the same). I find it just fits my hand perfectly, and every time I play my Tele, which has a C-neck and 7.25" radius...my hand hurts after 10 minutes when playing rhythm. For leads, I can move on the Tele almost as easy, though with the smaller radius, the strings end up being a bit higher so they don't fret-out...so it's not as buttery smooth as my Hags.

My hand obviously prefers the larger radius fretboards...but I can deal with different neck shapes/sizes easy enough.
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I just checked out the Swede Ultra, I like the look of it, dunno where I can try one around here tho.
 
Sammy, I think your best tones in that clip start around the 1:36 mark. I'm not crazy about the neck tone, but then I never did like neck pickups on anything. Overall it's not bad. Kind of fizzy and you need a tuner, but pretty good. :D
 
Greg_L said:
Sammy, I think your best tones in that clip start around the 1:36 mark. I'm not crazy about the neck tone, but then I never did like neck pickups on anything. Overall it's not bad. Kind of fizzy and you need a tuner, but pretty good. :D
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I stopped the one pass half way through because it was so out of tune even I couldn't stand it. :rolleyes:
 
Greg_L said:
I would be perfectly fine of no guitar had frets past the 12th. :)
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To tell the truth...I don't live in the upper 12 when playing leads. I'll slide up in there occasionally, but I would say most of my leads get played in the area between the 3rd and 12th...depending on Key, of course.

I notice guys with double-cuts who regularly play leads, often spend a great deal of time in the upper 12...though you can't argue that those high notes cut through everything, which is I guess why some players like playing in there so much....
...but it's just to plinky/bright for my ears.

Jeff Beck is a good example...he plays a lot up there, and I hate his tone most of the time...
...but I really dig his playing! :cool:
When he moves back into the lower ocatves...I love it. :D
 
I learned a Brian May solo (Death on Two Legs) that is up there.
I want to get better at working the upper register on my Strat.
I actually want to get better at all of it...
 
CMunch said:
I just checked out the Swede Ultra, I like the look of it, dunno where I can try one around here tho.
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I had one of the original Swede's as my primary ax for a couple years ..... it was aight. I didn't care for the sound too much .......... but it was long ago enough that my point of reference and desires from an instrument were different back then.
 
Greg_L said:
Sammy, I think your best tones in that clip start around the 1:36 mark. I'm not crazy about the neck tone, but then I never did like neck pickups on anything. Overall it's not bad. Kind of fizzy and you need a tuner, but pretty good. :D
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Thanks for the feedback BTW,
everyone has different monitors and I know my lead pick up can sometimes sound harsh on your system.

I've listened to several examples of neck pickup playing where they have worked well.
I would like to go there with the discussion the next time we hit a lull here.
 
miroslav said:
To tell the truth...I don't live in the upper 12 when playing leads. I'll slide up in there occasionally, but I would say most of my leads get played in the area between the 3rd and 12th...depending on Key, of course.
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I actually should amend my post to say 15th fret. I use the 12-15 fret minor pentatonic thing a lot for songs in E. It's the only lead pattern I know. Lol.
 
CMunch said:
I just checked out the Swede Ultra, I like the look of it, dunno where I can try one around here tho.
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I use the have an Ultra for awhile...it was a spalted maple, had one of the prettiest patterns (one of the reasons I decided to get it)....but I eventually sold it and got another standard Swede. I'm just a big Swede nut. :D
I have 5 vintage Swedes and 4 reissues, plus 1 reissue Super Swede, which is the same body, but it's a 25.5" scale, like Fenders, whereas the rest of the Hags are 24.75" like the Gibbies.

I will say this...the Ultra, compared to the standard Swedes is feather-light. It's a smaller body and like half the thickness.
Playing it was a lot of fun...you could sling that puppy all night long and hardly notice you even had a guitar around your neck. It was almost as light as my Tele.
 
Lt. Bob said:
I had one of the original Swede's as my primary ax for a couple years ..... it was aight. I didn't care for the sound too much .......... but it was long ago enough that my point of reference and desires from an instrument were different back then.
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Yea, listened to a coupla youtube demos, not really liking the sound of their custom 58 pups.
 
miroslav said:
I use the have an Ultra for awhile...it was a spalted maple, had one of the prettiest patterns (one of the reasons I decided to get it)....but I eventually sold it and got another standard Swede. I'm just a big Swede nut. :D
I have 5 vintage Swedes and 4 reissues, plus 1 reissue Super Swede, which is the same body, but it's a 25.5" scale, like Fenders, whereas the rest of the Hags are 24.75" like the Gibbies.

I will say this...the Ultra, compared to the standard Swedes is feather-light. It's a smaller body and like half the thickness.
Playing it was a lot of fun...you could sling that puppy all night long and hardly notice you even had a guitar around your neck. It was almost as light as my Tele.
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What pups are in the reissue dude?
 
CMunch said:
What pups are in the reissue dude?
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The Swedes have what Hagstrom calls the Custom 58...which is an ALNICO humbucker.
It's a nice pickup, has that vintage sound, "warm" if you will, not too harsh or high gain. I find it's slightly darker than the vintage Swede pups.

The Ultra has what they call the Custom 62...which is a ceramic humbucker and what they describe as a "modern nasty tone" on the website. :D
But honestly, the Ultra I had was't that "nasty"...certainly not like some bright, overwound 'buckers...but more bite than the Custom 58.

Here...you can read their site descriptions.

The Sound
 
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