The future of studio's???

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Re: sounds like Guided By Voices

ruebarb said:
Sounds like Guided by Voices...they're the exception, tho...not the rule...and the songs were so good it covered.

But they don't do that anymore either.
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Sure they do, but those records are released under GbV pseudonyms for contractual reasons with TVT records and exist as part of Pollard's 'Fading Captain Series'. Check it out...
http://www.gbv.com/fadingcaptain.html
 
so, who's gonna take the wonderful job of inviting this guy to visit the board here?....muhahahahahahahaha

***Justin***
 
Can't even get the article

Curiosity got me on the thread but I cold not even connect to the article. Nevertheless, I get the drift. I have a home stuido, I can DIY (Actually DIM - Do It Myself) but...Despite the fact that I have gotten compliments on my sound, my recordings if you will, I do not imagine that I can get the sound and quality of top pros with state of the art gear. Now, the price of gear may have come donw with respect to affordable devices that do similar things as the top end gear, however, real, top quality, toatally pro SSL and what-have-you, LA2A's, Pultecs, Harmonizer's, Fairchild's etc. exactly who thinks that the price of these items is now "affordable", who believes that budget gear, Behringer, Mackie, Presonus, etc. does the same thing, and who imagines that the results of the average home stuido can compete with a fully equipped, pro stuido with a top flight engineer at the helm. And, not to mention, who believes that an average home stuiod can compete with th likes of a, Bod Ludwig type masteriing studio with $80,000.00 speakers on concrete stailizing blocks sunk some twenty or whatever feet into the ground or bedrock or whatever the hell these maniacs do when there is no limit to the budget and all holds barred.

What an absurd idea in the first place. Certainly, home studios, project studios and the like have theri place and YES, you can record what will become a HIT CD on your home stuiod, it could happen, however, if you do manage to extablish yourslef as an artist of any merit, there wiill certainly be times when your home stuiod may not do. You may someday need a truly professional sound and thsu you will be compelled to go to the pros. And one more point. Anyone that has worked in theri home studioi knows that by wearing all the hats, engineer, producer, writer, preformer, mixer, fixit man, cook, gardner, PLUMBER, you diminish your ability in each area since you attention is divided throughout the various tasks. If I had my druthers, I would always work with a designated engineer. My experience in my home stuiod will only make my ability to work with that professional engineer a more rewarding experience. So, fuck that noise!
 
you said it!

Hey i'm using a cardboard cone and a peizo buzzer as a microphone .. it's even cheaper than headphones and it works perfectly! Rivals even the most expensive condeser mics!

Shoot me. Please.

my little ROSS 12 chanel mixer, noisy PC and sub 100$ Shure microphones can certainly be used with great care to make a kick ass sounding demo, but the home studio is just that.

Once the demo is out or you've released several thousand homemade cd's of so-so quality in your home town .. it's time to fork out a couple of bucks and hit a real studio. Use those expensive mics, sound booths, expensive effects and most importantly, use a dedicated sound engineer that actually does this for a living.

Most 'home recording' enthusiasts are over motivated musicians that are about to explode if they don't make a demo and/or get they're ideas 'on tape'. My home studio is perfect for making a decent sounding CD and to some ears, it sounds professional.

But to professionals, and even to my amateur ears, the lack of condeser mics, proper room acoustics, and :-( high quality equipment really makes the difference. The fact that a qualified sound engineer didn't 'master' the mix is also blatantly obvious.

I don't think any senior homerecording.com members have the illusion that a home setup can be 'as good' as the pros. If so, why are the pros spending so much damn money on their rig?

In the musical world, i think it's fair enough to say that "you get what you pay for .. if you've made the necessary research."



ON that note .. i need some better monitors. *sigh*
 
ice in beer is definitely NOT the way to do it. And take it from a guy in a country who fighted against the british in the 20th century (and lost, although we beat them with a hand goal on Mexico 86. Go, Diego!).
 
I love how you call it a "hand goal". You make it sound like a perfectly acceptable footballing technique!

Diego was a cheat...and u know it :)

...and as for saying us brits drink warm beer...another lovely stereotype. Just like how we all have bad teeth (cause Austin Powers is real!) and wear bowler hats to work.

Maybe the beer is sometimes warm, but then we don't drink "lite" beer out of little cans - cause you can't take you beer! That's a nice litte US stereotype from this side of the pond! :D ...controversial!
 
"You don't need a microphone to record vocals and you can sometimes get really cool results by using other things. Headphones are really just microphones in reverse . . . "

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Yea, and I suppose you could always use a D.I. box instead of a mic preamp, eh? :)
 
I love how you call it a "hand goal". You make it sound like a perfectly acceptable footballing technique!
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Are you guys still mad about that? Well, it seems the referee was the only one who found it acceptable. Anyways, we beat you in the last cup without Diego, so I hope you're better prepared this year ;)


Diego was a cheat...and u know it[/QUOTE]

well, the Malvinas Islands (the ones you guys call Falklands,) is also a cheat and you know it. Don't get me wrong, I think that that war was a stupid thing to do on our side, but you guys should give the islands back. They aren't even in your hemisphere!

Cheers, Andrés
 
I agree about the Falkland islands in principle, but it isn't that simple. I'm sure some of the population wouldn't be too happy about us giving it back. There's a lot of history to it.

As for the next World Cup, get ready for a beating! This time Beckham as grown up, and won't do something stupid like last time! :)
 
frederic said:
In contrast, a chimp would do a lousy job running a Sony DMX with full automation
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That reminds me of me in my studio (and I don't mean the DMX).

:D
 
I'm not to sure about this whole Discussion. I kinda looked at it maybe diff. than you all did. I thought it was kinda neat, I went to google and did a search on Alex Botten. I was amazed how many things came up. Maybe I'll try recording through them head phones.
 
Nigeria is going to win the world cup this year.

I might be watching it in the uk though.
 
do with what?

the 86 goal that maradona scored?
the war?

BTW, in 86, maradona with the player everybody wanted to be.

I still think Pele is the greater player.
 
Wow, coooooool, do you play right field for the mud ville 9 or somethin'? Did you even read the post?
 
Where the hell is this thread going?

:confused: :confused: :confused:

I think the main thing we need to do is to send some home-wreckers (pardon the pun) to this guy's hows, and kick some booty --

Turning a headphone into a mic? Well.... That'll replace my NT2 then! Oh, and I may as well get rid of all my plug in's and racks, i've got to use guitar effects.

Because, i can do a great demo that could be mastered to CD now. You don't even need to clean the heads on your tape machine, no seriously, because dirty heads give that old-time quality to a recording.

Studio monitors, they'r just speakers like the one's you get with your aiwa lo-fi! Seriously, these manufactureres just buy the same drivers, put them in a new case, badge it, and add $400 to the price!


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I really didn't think people were that stupid.


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:rolleyes:
 
Whatever it is.....portugal are getting kicked out of the first round...since a certain famous brazilian of whom gordon banks saved (need anymore clues???) predicted them to win the cup.

just to name his last few predictions - columbia for usa94 and spain for 98.
 
I don't get the opposition to what this guy's saying.

Yeah, some of what he says is retarded... then again, being experimental is what makes new stuff. And, I can relate to spending alot of money to make a demo, only to end up with something that I don't think is anything nearly as good as some of my home recordings.
 
Leif Eriksson and the men before him brought the beer and the drinks to America...the story does not tell about the temperature...guess it was...outside temperature.

Probably, the natives and other had their own brews, but one more guess, probably it has "died-out".

Well..

Have you listened to the band on the link ( http://www.kasino.co.uk/mp3s.htm ) , really great.

Also learned that the drummer usually has his drumsticks in the nose (while not playing I hope) and that one member never laughts...hmmm.

Well, this is typical UK people..or Scottish after some warm lagers and drinks. They are all the same.

Hans (compared to "Celtic" in music...hmmm again),

www.hagen.nu
 
Home recording has been going on ever since there has been recording.Good musicians and good technical people can now get excellent results at home even with equipment that costs very little.With the availability of reasonably priced DAW's and Sound modules,sequencers,Samplers,Synths ect. As well as good quality mics for very resonable prices.Now the home recordist can choose between Software or Outboard Dynamic Processors that do a very good job.I have some of the "higher end" recording gear and some of the "lower end" gear.And I get some damn good recordings out of this setup.Some of the "Big Name Artists" like Areosmith and Cheryl Crow have tagged hit records as "Home Recorded" but they were usually taken to the PRO studio for Mixing Mastering and Overdubs and in most cases their was a Pro eng and or Producer at the home studio.

My point is,Yes DIY is cool and fun and I would not want to do without it.BUT If the recording is going to go anywhere it should be done by or with a person that truly knows what they are doing,on equipment that can do what needs to be done.Again there is going to be a small handful of Homers that can get pro results at home,but these people are probably pro quality people anyway.
 
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