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tryptophan
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by the way....... with that guy who said america was built on free enterprise........ she was also built on the survival of the fittest dictum
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dawg2k5
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The thing is.....the Polls say 60% use pirate SW but I'm sure at least 10% are lying. So in reality, it's probably 70%+. 
PS- I only use original software that I have purchased
PS- I only use original software that I have purchased
jpw23
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tryptophan said:
Does survival of the fittest mean stealing? Does this mean , if I can't do it myself, I will steal from those who can? We used to hang horse theives!
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tryptophan
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now you're getting the hang of it. here is a question to you and everybody else... would you rather get something for free, or pay money for it? the answer is free because it's easier and i wont have to spend my money. see what i am saying?
DaveO
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I see exactly what you're saying. If I were to jump your grandmother, beat the shit out of her, and steal her purse, you'd high five me for being a creative thinker for getting that money without having to work for it.
Yep, stealing is definitely the way to go. I think I'll go out an mug me some easy targtets right now!
Yep, stealing is definitely the way to go. I think I'll go out an mug me some easy targtets right now!
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tryptophan
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dave o, your vim is positively enchanting. we call people like you "hope beacons" in my institution. i'm not telling people to beat up old grannies, i'm telling them to steal their pocketbooks stealthily.
DaveO
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What a loser ....
If you had balls you'd walk into Guitar Center, Sam Ash, or any other large store, pick up any item that catches your eye, and flip off the store manager as you walk out the door and head straight home.
If you can do that, then I'll leave you alone about pirating software. Until then you're a pussy, plain and simple. You only pirate software because there's a low chance of being caught and even lower chance of paying any real price for it.
You can learn a lot about a man by the way he treats someone who can do him no harm or by how he acts when no one is watching. You've taught us much here. I certainly wouldn't want you on any team where I have to count on the other members.
If you had balls you'd walk into Guitar Center, Sam Ash, or any other large store, pick up any item that catches your eye, and flip off the store manager as you walk out the door and head straight home.
If you can do that, then I'll leave you alone about pirating software. Until then you're a pussy, plain and simple. You only pirate software because there's a low chance of being caught and even lower chance of paying any real price for it.
You can learn a lot about a man by the way he treats someone who can do him no harm or by how he acts when no one is watching. You've taught us much here. I certainly wouldn't want you on any team where I have to count on the other members.
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tryptophan
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dave o, thank you for expressing interest in our institution. to clarify, we're not encouraging anyone to steal from guitar center. instead, we would encourage that person to steal from a friend or family member who has already purchased the guitar legitimately.
the reasons are two. 1: faimly members usualy do not press charges. and 2: it's better to get nice articles for free instead of paying actual human money for them because you have to work in order to make money. and working is hard and boring to do. i would rather do different things with my time such as: play golf or listen to a new record (which i stole).
the reasons are two. 1: faimly members usualy do not press charges. and 2: it's better to get nice articles for free instead of paying actual human money for them because you have to work in order to make money. and working is hard and boring to do. i would rather do different things with my time such as: play golf or listen to a new record (which i stole).
DaveO
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You're either a pussy or a troll, but in either case you're not worth my time. I'm done, so enjoy getting the last word in.
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Toker41
Better Than You
I really find it hard to believe that there is anyone that posted on this thread that does not have some form of "stolen" item on their PC. I really doubt that one person could honestly say they don't have at least 1 song on their PC that they did not pay for. A clip of ONE NIGHT IN PARIS that was not paid for. A pic of some nude girl that did not give her permission for you to download her image. An old cassette that they used to record a song on the radio, or copy an album. Maybe watched a copy of a movie on VHS. EVERYBODY STEALS!!! You bible thumpers need to stop beating people over the head with it, and try reading it, instead of just repeating things you were told about it. "...JUDGE NOT..."
I paid for N-track, not only because it was the cheapest recording program, but also because it was the most user friendly, and had every feature I found in Sonar, and the half dozen others I downloaded. I paid for the one I liked (N-track). I had to try the demo first, and it was a little buggy, but I could not find it cracked on ANY P2P network. At $40 for a full version, I didn't mind paying to really check it out. Maybe because the price is so low, and the support so good that the people that use it feel loyalty to the "company", and won't share reg. codes or crack it? Other software companies should take a lesson from it.
As for the cracked versions of the other recording software I downloaded and tried...
The companies only lost money if you look at the fact that they lost a customer that would not have liked the product after paying for it, and would have been left feeling cheated. ALL the demos were weak and buggy....using demo's got old fast.
I paid for N-track, not only because it was the cheapest recording program, but also because it was the most user friendly, and had every feature I found in Sonar, and the half dozen others I downloaded. I paid for the one I liked (N-track). I had to try the demo first, and it was a little buggy, but I could not find it cracked on ANY P2P network. At $40 for a full version, I didn't mind paying to really check it out. Maybe because the price is so low, and the support so good that the people that use it feel loyalty to the "company", and won't share reg. codes or crack it? Other software companies should take a lesson from it.
As for the cracked versions of the other recording software I downloaded and tried...
The companies only lost money if you look at the fact that they lost a customer that would not have liked the product after paying for it, and would have been left feeling cheated. ALL the demos were weak and buggy....using demo's got old fast.
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that boy amp
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so what
ive paid for plenty of software but i regret every purchase i ever made.(except WebAssist site import.thats a godsend!) even if i use it alot. the only reason i did was because i didnt know about all the p2p and bit torrent sites out there. anyway i think all the people who complain about cracked software are upset because for so long music making was such an elitist field but now teenagers are making better music with cheap pc and cubase than some of the "professionals" are making with full blown rigs. the software companies were going to charge you more money anyway because they can. they know at this point youre paying for a brand name more than the software's actual capability anyway. if youre making great music and money with your paid for software then you dont even know an issue like this even exists. but if you paid $2000 for nuendo3 and your music still sucks then this message just might be pertaining to you
ive paid for plenty of software but i regret every purchase i ever made.(except WebAssist site import.thats a godsend!) even if i use it alot. the only reason i did was because i didnt know about all the p2p and bit torrent sites out there. anyway i think all the people who complain about cracked software are upset because for so long music making was such an elitist field but now teenagers are making better music with cheap pc and cubase than some of the "professionals" are making with full blown rigs. the software companies were going to charge you more money anyway because they can. they know at this point youre paying for a brand name more than the software's actual capability anyway. if youre making great music and money with your paid for software then you dont even know an issue like this even exists. but if you paid $2000 for nuendo3 and your music still sucks then this message just might be pertaining to you
DaveO
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that boy amp said:
Until now I would never have guessed someone's head could be so far up his ass. Thank you for helping stretch the boundarires of my imagination.
Anthony
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DaveO said:I see exactly what you're saying. If I were to jump your grandmother, beat the shit out of her, and steal her purse, you'd high five me for being a creative thinker for getting that money without having to work for it. Yep, stealing is definitely the way to go. I think I'll go out an mug me some easy targtets right now!
You made me laugh with this one,
but I do agree with your point.
fraserhutch
Flypaper for freaks
DaveO said:Until now I would never have guessed someone's head could be so far up his ass. Thank you for helping stretch the boundarires of my imagination.
I agree. I don't think I've ever read such a retarted post.......
noisewreck
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The only cracked software I use is Muon Tau Pro. The reason I use the cracked version is because I never received the actual software from them which I paid for. I sent them 2-3 e-mails, and never got an answer. So... screw it, I'll use the crack. I've paid for it, and don't feel guilty. Needless to say, i'll never do business with them ever.
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Zed10R
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RhythmRmixd said:
That is absolutly true. There seems to be a correlation between using pirated software and one's capacity for higher mental function. Most of the guys I personally know who use pirated software have very little vision for what they can do with it. They are amazed by the simples things. Like cutting and pasting without "popping" noises. They never imagined the existance of a "snap to grid" tool and were flabberghasted at what it allows you to do. Others think of software as a magic button. They are convinced that if they could just get it to work, they will instantly start pumping out hit after hit, right out of thier bedrooms, using nothing more than radio shack mics, goriilla amps, and three chords.
On the other hand, there are the guys who BUY their software. Most of them all seem to be pretty level headed and realistic fellas with a great deal more talent, foresight, skill, and patience than the other lot.
Why is this? In my opinion it is all about instant gratification. The morons who can't be bothered to buy their software aren't going to be bothered to actually LEARN how to play anything. And they SURE as hell won't be bothered with 3, 4, or 17 drafts of a song to get it right. They don't have the ability to see that far. All they care about is what can be done RIGHT NOW.
And yes, if I someone seems a bit inept, I DO ask "hey...did you pirate your (insert whatever program dude is using) program?? If the answer is yes, I just got a pretty reliable warning that this person is a waste of time.
IronFlippy
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Well, if you think about what it takes to make an operating system, I'd say it's worth a lot more than they're charging for it. However, it IS windows you're talking about...Ptownkid said:
I have the view of most people on this board about pirated software. Yes, I've used pirated software. No, I don't anymore. I've found software that is cheaper than the "pro" stuff, but functions similarly, and until I can afford the "pro", I will use the software that I can afford.
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Sorcerio
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I'm ditching software for good ol' hardware. But I think I may buy an Atari 1040ST and BUY Cubase for it. As PC software gets more advanced, the less interested I am.
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johnnymegabyte
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Heck, you may find one for free, and some one will be glad to get rid of it.Sorcerio said:
New and improved, more features, etc usually require more resources, hence, a faster computer, more memory, bigger hard drive etc. and more money.
What SUN Records did live off the floor, or George Martin's 4 track work with The Beatles, seems so low-tech, but it worked, and produced some of the finest music. Less is More. But in the end, talent rules.
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Zeeb
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Yea, some stuff isn't worth the price to me. But I wouldn't want a hacked copy either. Reason is over priced. Sony Oxford plug-ins make me laugh. But FruityLoops is worth $150. It's my effects processor for my harddisk recorder and then some. I'm sure hardware effects and synths as good as those would cost way more than that. I doubt I'd ever buy Cubase again or an update since Mackie Tracktion is $150 dollars. Cubase invented a lot of new things, but it has a few bugs and a wacky license with that dongle. If you really need free stuff just use Linux and RME, Echo, or M-Audio PCI stuff. The JACK Audio Connection Kit on Linux is very nice. Windows could really use something like that instead of Rewire. There is tons of free stuff available open source for Linux. I was fooling around with it with my onboard sound card... not too bad at all. Very impressive.