That effect in Cher's Believe.

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Anyone know how they do that efect on Cher's voice in Believe? I know it's been around forever but only when I heard that song again the other day did it occur to me to try and find out how it's done.
 
I'm not sure if they used the exact model on the recording, but the effect can be made with the Antares Auto-Tune system.
 
I think if you can easily hear it you did something wrong, unless its used with intent for that sound and that's so disturbing. I pressed really hard to think of something as annoying and unpleasant sounding as that effects signature. I think it has to be the audio to the original Pong game.
 
I used it (Antares A.T.) on a track a couple years ago - Label flew the band out from NY (to me in Chicago). Vocalist had a bit of a cold and screwed the pooch on one song. Couldn't do it again - Couldn't stay longer - They had to get back to NY. Tried to correct it for days...

Finally threw the AutoTune on it and cranked it up to "STOOPID." Way beyond Cher. Hard-jumps from note to note - Totally obnoxious.

Saved my ass. Band loved it. Label loved it. I even thought it was kinda cool. But for sure, nothing I'd actually "try" to do...
 
Thanks Cloneboy Studio.
And thanks Massive Master. I used to have Antares and now you've inspired me to revisit it.
 
It was a Korg VC10. I'm pretty sure the rest of the vocal track was subtly affected with Autotune though. Most tracks are.
 
protein said:
It was a Korg VC10. I'm pretty sure the rest of the vocal track was subtly affected with Autotune though. Most tracks are.
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No... Autotune hadn't come out when Cher's song was in production.... it did come out shortly after the single was released, which is why so many incorrectly assume the Autotune was responsible for the effect.
 
Vocoder?

Ok. As far as I understand a vocoder allows you to let a trak, especially vocals to conform to the melody of another track. THis sounds stupid even to me so what is it exactly and how would one use it pratically and properly.
 
Chewie said:
Ok. As far as I understand a vocoder allows you to let a trak, especially vocals to conform to the melody of another track. THis sounds stupid even to me so what is it exactly and how would one use it pratically and properly.
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Then don't use one.

However, a vocoder actually allows a musician to take one signal (the carrier) and modify it by another (the modulator). Many interesting effects can be created this way, including the "robot" voice or other things.

Honestly if you want to hear what a vocoder can do listen to "Worlock" by Skinny Puppy, or "Amnesia" by Skinny Puppy. Fucking cool uses of vocoder on the chorus.

Then maybe decide if they are useless. Granted, they can be overused, but useless? Hardly in the right type of music.
 
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