tell me why this mix isn't done.

[theron]

http://www.nowhereradio.com/theron/singles

the song is called "Ms. Destiny" I think this mix is decent but, I suck at mixing. thus my inquiry. What can I do to improve it.


Of course, I greet any and all comments on the song itself as well. I'm just a bedroom hack so, few ears have heard this tune (or any others). Feedback is a welcome novelty on all levels and angles.

Thanks for your time.

Theron.

 

[Hard2Hear]

theron-

Pre-warning. I am listening on Phillips surround PC speakers and a sub, NOT my studio monitors.

This song has a really live sound to it. It sounds like a taping of Austin City Limits. The drums seem to sit way back in the mix, but if you're going for the live feel, it works for me. It sounds like spring reverb on everything in the mix. But that helps create the live sound I hear here. If you're going for a studio sound, though, the drums and low-mids need to come up and sit better in the mix. And the reverb would need to be dried out some.

I would first want to know what you're using start to end for your recordings.

Good job!

H2H

 

[theron]

I tend to hide behind reverb when unsure of things.

I'm useing Vegas for my multi
a little beringer mx 602a mixer
sonic foundry express fx plugins for effects, comp and eq
an mxl v67 mic on vox and mic to cab on the git tracks
the drums a sundry of loops. Slice and dice.

the bass rig is worth about $42 but, at least it's a bass.

I did the writing, vocals, backups, rhythm and drum cuts
a friend layed down the bass and any cool git that you might hear.

 

[slkeen]

cool song. I agree the drums need to be brought up - they get drowned out. Need some thump on the bass drum and more snap on the snare. Sometimes the guitars seem a little out of sync with each other, but that might just be my ears. I think its a good job, nice work on the vocals and harmonies.

 

[Track Rat]

Could be a very cool tune. The drum loops just aren't doing it justice. If you can rework them into something a little more solid (kind of a jazz ride) and bring them up in the mix and dry the vocal out this would actually be a VERY good tune.

 

[theron]

slkeen, thanks for the comments. I'll work on the d track.

Track Rat,
Yeah, I've had a hard time getting the drums I want. I think that is why I tried to drownd the weakness in reverb and push it under the rest of the mix. I'll hack away at it some more. You think the vocals are too wet? Should I simply use less effect or a different effects aproach? Thanks much for your time.

Theron

 

[B.SABBATH]

theron,
I liked the tune and your voice, but I didn't like the drums. I just saw that issue was mentioned but I started typing before I read the others... you have a cool voice but this would probably be better without the drums. As I'm listening to'Deadhorse' I feel similar about the drums...good tune also but the bass drum all the way through I don't think is enough. When the heavier guitar comes in, it would have been cool to hear an actual beat.....but you didnt ask about that tune so I'll just say I liked that one better...but I liked all three......and 'Deadhorse' was the one I liked the most...they all had cool lyrics as well...

cool tunes

later

B

 

[mixmkr]

tell me why this mix isn't done

apparently, because you are not totally satisfied that it is "all" it could be

seriously...just ditch the drums...take out the weak link....replace it with finger snaps if you have to, and put in a whistling solo...or whatever.....or just nothing. Bring up the bass, and watch those mic pops...

Nice song...glad you got it out of the bedroom and into cyberspace

 

[theron]

B,
Thanks for all the listens. I have drum issues that permeate my taudry attempts at home recording for sure. I use drum loops. My selection is small and my talents at slice and dice alterations are less than notable. I'll find a different method for the drums or try to get better at my current fake job.
Thanks again for your time and ears.

mixmkr.
Do you think the song will stand with just finger snapping or some such rudimentarily poduced beat. I really want that simple jazz percusion feel but, I can't seem to find it and I can't play percusion to save anything. Should I go with such a simple solution. I guess it beats having the distructive track(the drum loop) in the mix. Is the loop so bad or could I lay off the verb and bring it up a bit, make it more snappy? What do ya think.

Thanks

Theron.

 

[Erland]

Wicked

That is one groovy song. I love the chorus layers on the vocals and the panning. This is my opinion. Those drums though, even the beat is off. It seriously would sound cool with just the finger clicks! Really lade back jazzy feel. The drums make it messy.

Hearing again. The chorus or bridge vocals are sweet. They come in perfectly. Axle Rose makes an appearance too.

The guitar get very loud as the song progresses. They drown out the voices. I dig this tune though. Very Austin Powers, swinger!

Great ending too.

I agree with Mixmic. Raising the bass even would be cool.

Just my thoughts

Later

Erland

 

[nave]

I listened......Good song dude..........As far as the drums go...I don't think I would bail them altogether....You just need to do a lot more experimenting with them.....You can get better results by taking fruity loop's onboard sounds and tweaking them.......Try anything when it comes to drums....that is my philosophy...I've sliced and diced loops......used soundfonts.....used drum machines.....used soundcard midi...used fruity....used a bunch of crap........Occasionally I create my own kits using any different combination of pieces from the aforementioned drum creating devices........If you experiment enough you'll find something that works...For now, I'd pull them up in the mix as well.....It's almost hard to even make a clear judgement on just how bad they actually do sound when you have them that low.....Don't just quit and resort to finger snapping just yet....Work on it more....HOwEver, I could see a cool and quick break in the song, where the drums almost bail out, and finger snapping (or something) takes over...maybe just a finger snapping type sound and a guitar would make for a cool/short break....


peace dude



- nave

 

[GT]

theron, the original

theron,

I like to listen to your stuff, and leave the critiques behind. I hope you don't mind. Your stuff I just like to hear for the shear fun of it.

Love that voice, and I don't know why. Usually, I don't like voices with a lot of style, but yours is an exception.

Nice flow on the guitar, and great tune.

Allways a pleasure!!

GT

 

[drstawl]

Ms Destiny worked for me. A few clicks and pops here and there.
The drums need to come up a lot. It's like they're in another county!

Dead horse seemed a bit overdone in search of a louder mix.

bed of discontent was a great Tom Waits thing.

Nice Job!

 

[theron]

This is such a benificial haven!!

Erland, Thanks for the comments. I' try a minimal approach to the d/click track as I search for something fuller. Maybe it will come back to the finger thang.
Axle Rose? I think my youth is starting to haunt me.
CHILDREN, be wary of what you listen to!!

Nave, thanks for the encouragment on the D track. I think that something i can muster up will work. I hear the break your speaking of. I shelved it on acount of the root problems at hand. I reallly fooled myself of this one. I was soo tired of f*cking with that pesky D track that I threw some verb on and told myself it was done.

GT
As always, thank you. I always thought my weakest point was my vocals. I like the songs I write but, never liked the way I sang. Perhaps, over time, I've tried to compensate for lack of vocal talent with "style". Maybe it is paying off.
I loved your cover of the Yes tune ( can't recall the title") Email me and let me know if you decide to get some new gear. I've something to send you as well. Thanks for your continued praise.


Drstawl,

As I'm sure you've gathered from other posts, I guess I knew the weakness of the drum track. It is fully confermed by your post (and my respect there of). I'll hit the refine the D track time soon. THanks for listening to all that I've up. I'm working on the D horse drums as well. Bed of Discontent was natural to write and it is fun to play(in my house when no one is home) I hope the warranted T Waits comparision doesn't cut into the enjoyment of the story. Thanks much for your time and ear.

Like I said, this forum rocks

Wish I could help more and I will when I can whether you Sons of Muses like it or not!

Theron.