Teac X10R

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I needed to playback some 3 3/4 ips tapes so I managed to pick up a Teac X10R off of eBay. It should arrive friday so we will see what condition it willbe in. Comes with manuals and schematic.

Anyone know much about them?

I do plan on offering tape to CD through the local Craigs list to see if it can pay for it's self. I recall that we (the list here) thought that $10 for a 7" reel to CD with no processing was a low but good starting number (If I recall right).

thoughts?
 
evm1024 said:
I recall that we (the list here) thought that $10 for a 7" reel to CD with no processing was a low but good starting number (If I recall right).

thoughts?
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Yeah, $10 (plus shipping costs I presume) is pretty inexpensive and I feel you'll get many takers.
 
Yes I know about X-10 R, actually using the same model for tape transfer here sometimes:)
Auto-reverse function, pitch-control and adjustable output control that comes handy when messing with old tapes.
X-10 R is similar to the bigger X-1000 R and many parts are the same between them.
A low hour machine is of course the right deck to start with, do you know what condition it has ?
 
evm1024 said:
$10 for a 7" reel to CD with no processing was a low but good starting number

thoughts?
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Low? - yes.
Good?
Good for who? :D
If you mean good for you, then the answer is: "You are out of your mind" heh heh, well, of course, that is so if you actually looking forward to this activity as a weeknights/weekends business of a sort.
If you really just want to have fun and in addition have some 'compensation' for having fun, then it may work.
BUT! It will work so ONLY in case if you will NOT get much orders. If you 'll get a lot of orders you'll be sorry you've got yourself into this.
There are many "little things" you may not realize that you'll have to deal with practically when facing orders and CUSTOMERS! :mad::D:mad:. Plus the things that you do aware of are not exactly the same when you actually do those things for somebody in exchange for cash as when JUST doings those very things for yourself. Big difference. But when you get the whole list of orders, then everything sort of multiplies.
You really need to at least make some detailed estamate of time you ACTUALLY will have to spend to complete an order. Then go through the possible 'order situations', by that I mean, tape length/speed - total play time plus some time for "moving around" ,order-processing, packaging, labling and what ever else may be involved. If you ignore these details first then they'll hit you as an unpleasant surprize. When you face it you'll conclude rather soon that you can not just keep doing this sh*t for free, and I can guaranty you - THERE IS NOTHING about it that will make you feel like you having "fun" , heh heh , no fun at all.
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pricing?
here's example of 'business' : http://www.reel2reel2cd.com/STEP%202.html, check their "pricing situation" there with all the details.

You gotta have your own estamation and think what's reasonable or duable for you personally.
One way of sort of figuring it out is to set some minimum base price for any order which would include , let's say, up to 60 mins recording time (tape length/speed) and a one CD copy. Then you set the rate for aditional time per hour. Set the price for the first CD-copy and for extra copies. Set prices for additional services like digital editing, tracks arrangement, processing, CD-labeling etc...
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I am not advising you at all. Just sharing a thought or two.
I use to run 'small business' for few years, music editing for sport events/competitions. Had to quit. Not because I had no customers, but rather because I had more cutomers than I could handle on weeknights and weekends. Well, it may be different if you make it your priority first job. I don't know.

good luck and all
 
Mid hour deck

Mid hours on the deck. I'll be getting it tomorrow and will know more.

Very good advise from Dr Zee (RE Are you out od your mind?) Lots to think about.

I'm looking for just a little cash on the side. I do know how to say NO but it is often easy to not say no. Written agreements with costs up front are the ticket.

--REgards.

PS Super good site for this kind of work. $10 is too little,,,,,
 
Never say NO to a customer. Instead say "YES, sure!" and attach 'unacceptable' price-tag.
Kind of joking, but, well, there's a point to it.

I'd say, think through details, check through what's alredy is being offered around your area, set up something (attach some sort of note ala 'terms and conditions may change at any time', blah blah), post some adds. When you get some orders you'll see for yourself how it goes and what it actually takes, then adjust on the fly.
 
Yes it depends what condition the tapes are in, when it comes to home recorded tapes with family gatherings the quality can really suck..
But from my experince you should charge more, depends what your time is worth.
I charge $ 28.00 for a 7 inch reel and if you estimate the time ( 3-3/4 speed and regular 1800 feet long = 192 minutes and + blank cd's + packing/shipping back.
Dr Zee is right:cool:
 
one extra note.
that's just my opinion from my past experience, you can take it as advise or dismiss :o
On that site (the link I've posted above), I see they offer FREE analysis of this and that.
I STRONGLY recommend you to NOT offer anything like that, period. More to that, I'd say, do not offer anything for free ahead and on paper, even though you may feel like it is a reasonable good idea at first. You just never know what kind of trouble you are asking for.
Provide contact information in what ever form(s) you prefer and offer to answer "any questions". And that' about it.
Put together and provide some basics 'educational' technical information for customers about tapes, formats, sizes, speed, cd-rs, digital formats etc. Do not expect your customer to know anything at all. Also, even though you provide this info, do NOT expect your customers to actually read it or comprehand it in any shape or form. It just has to be available. It sure will help but it will not save you from duties to deal with questions, misunderstandings, mis-expectations and ,ultimately ,complains. It's a natural part of the deal :D
FREE stuff:
You can (and I'd say should) treat your customers on the fly with what ever may come out during the process on individual base. Being nice and generous here and there is cool. People do appreciate it. BUT!!!! It's not the same as getting something for nothing "as advertized". Take my word on it. Stay out of trouble.
 
Don't forget additional charges for baking tape when needed. ;) A collection of various noise reduction units will come in handy... at least DBX type II and Dolby B, but DBX I and Dolby C might come up as well. There were a lot of other NR schemes back in the day and the customer might not know what was used.

I've thought about offering these services locally myself. Nearly all the local studios are gone... I'm not sure if anyone is doing transfers around here anymore.

IMO the Teac X10R is a nice machine.

:)
 
Some money there

I'd transfer those tapes. Let's see, base fee $25 per tape, Baking fee $25 per tape, Long play fee, $25 per tape. $75 per tape times 100 = $7500. Oh and before I forget. Studio feel of $100/hr for anything that takes longer that normal spool and play time (eq adjustments etc). COuld be sweet. Want it fast then triple the cost. :D

There is a local radio station that has an extensive tape library. I might work up to the point where I could offer to "archive" their tape to cd (yea, I know) for a fee. I get the tape and their tape machines plus a basic hourly rate time the quoted hours.

In a prior life I owned a document imaging company. We usually farmed out the scanning of the documents. Basic rate was $5 per page. If we were doing archive of rare books it could go up to $25 per page. Then the scans went an OCR pass and to an Oracle database plus the real kicker we put the OCR text into a neural net.

Ages ago.....
 
The deck is here

The deck gor in a day early. Well packed and in good shape. The heads are about 50% worn and the drive bely needs Replacement. The pinch rollers are hanging up on old grease.

So I'll have to order a belt and do a little cleaning and lube job then this should be a good deck.

Came with 2 NAB adaptors, an empty TDK 10.5" reel and a Teac RE-711 7" metal take up reel and the Operators manual and schematic.

not bad....
 
Sounds like a good deal, be sure to buy a original belt as aftermarket can create problems with the two fly-wheels inside when using auto-reverse.
parts@teac.com
 
Sounds good.
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side note:
I hope I'll make sense here :o:p:o
one problem with audio (well, sort of problem), is that you have to listen and as you listen you hear and so the 'content' gets to you.
Like, when you, for example, deal with printing/imaging, you can deal with work, check the quality and what not without actually reading, meaning seeing without seeing "what's in it".
You can't listen without hearing and you can't not hear while hearing. :D
Well, it may be entertaining, but may be extremly painful, depending on content. And you can't just mute it off and "transfer silently"... too risky :D
 
Yes I know, transfer tapes you need to listen and adjust the signals.
One time I took a project with 18 tapes of a woman reading poetry and transfer to Cd..the mic was not mounted and sound signals low for a minute..then high..so I had to listen and adjust..poetry is not my favorite:eek:
 
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Dr ZEE said:
Sounds good.
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side note:
I hope I'll make sense here :o:p:o
one problem with audio (well, sort of problem), is that you have to listen and as you listen you hear and so the 'content' gets to you.
Like, when you, for example, deal with printing/imaging, you can deal with work, check the quality and what not without actually reading, meaning seeing without seeing "what's in it".
You can't listen without hearing and you can't not hear while hearing. :D
Well, it may be entertaining, but may be extremly painful, depending on content. And you can't just mute it off and "transfer silently"... too risky :D
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Ain't that the truth! It could be 6000 hours of <Insert music you hate here>.
 
Vintage Texas said:
18 tapes ... listen and adjust..poetry
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heh heh heh
and then wake up on rainy monday with a "favorite" passage about sun-shine and hot peppers still spinning in your head.
Good moning! You don't look well. Are you ok?
:D :D :D
 

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Exactly !!.
Was very happy when that project were finished:D
 
And the belt goes....

Got a chance to take the transport apart. This decks biggest problem was a bad drive belt and grease that was acting like glue and keeping the pinch rollers from contacting the capstans. Also missing a few washers. All ordered from Teac and due in monday or tuesday.

The question I now: The drive belt goes around the 2 flywheels with the drive motor in between them. The belt can go around the motor pulley from the top or from the bottom. It does not make any difference in belt direction but I suspect that there is a recommend way. So, does the drive belt go around the motor pulley on the top belt span or the bottom span? Anybody know?

No service manual here....

Thnaks, Ehtan
 
I made this one for X-1000 R couple of years back but X-10 are the same when it comes to the belt replacement.

TeacX1000RBeltchange001.jpg

The whole assembly plate has 6 screws holding it:
See red marks:

TeacX1000RBeltchange002.jpg


And another on the right side attached to a bracket:

TeacX1000RBeltchange004.jpg
 
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