Taylors vs Martins

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Yep. I'm a troll. I hate Martins and I wanted to get approval from the others out there that agree with me. It makes me feel important. You guys figured me out.

Trolling is also when you go out with intention of getting really wasted and bringing home some nasty skank to bang. AKA, hogging.
 
And there really is no need for me to try to incite people on this site to disagree and argue. It happens naturally all by itself.
 
TelePaul said:
He admitted it!!! :eek: :D :D

Well you seem pretty steadfast in your opinions of Martins...and thats garnd...but were you coming here in the hopes of being persuaded otherwise?
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Just wondered if many others found them to be as crappy sounding/playing as I do. Hoped to read a bunch of different opinions. I find it entertaining and educational at the same time.
 
gibson59neck said:
???? Can't figure you out. I guess if defending myself against people that talk down to and make assumptions about me makes me a troll, fuck it. I'm a troll!

Damn this place has a lot of knobs in it...
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Yeh right and some of us stick out a lot further than the others :D :D
 
gibson59neck said:
Just wondered if many others found them to be as crappy sounding/playing as I do. Hoped to read a bunch of different opinions. I find it entertaining and educational at the same time.
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Guess what works for you works for you! All my buddys have different stuff, its all good.
 
gibson59neck said:
Sound off with your opinions of Martin acoustics vs. Taylors. I have played many Martins. I try them whenever I get the chance, because I want to see if all that mystique and glory is ever going to be true, and I am let down every time. New ones, old ones, they are all the same to me so far. Hard to play and a flat, dead tone that sounds like you're playing in a small box. Every Taylor I've ever played blows away every Martin I've played without acception.

Whatcha think????
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I have only had the luxury of playing other peoples Martins.
Only one really grabbed my fingers...and it wasn't the famous ones.

Taylors didn't jump out as much different than many others either.

and the sticker price led me back to the kazoo area.

I have decided to play the Kazoo and try to get a really good sound.
 
I can state that there's something to love in both the Martins and the Taylors, not to mention the Larrive' s, the Gibsons and the Rainsong's. I play a '68 D28S which I selected for it's fantastic tone and playability. Bought it new. I also play a "63 Gibson LG-3, which for recording rhythm strumming, can't be beat by anything I've put it up against. I use Elixer lite's and a soft triangle pick.
For single note stuff, the Martin wins hands down. The huge body has a unique "rise time" to it and the natural swell is very warm. Notes that are sustained produce very cool harmonics. The Rainsong guitars deserve a whole thread to themselves. To sum up....Apples and oranges. I lust over a Taylor nylon ... very responsive.


chazba
 
chazba said:
I can state that there's something to love in both the Martins and the Taylors, not to mention the Larrive' s, the Gibsons and the Rainsong's. I play a '68 D28S which I selected for it's fantastic tone and playability. Bought it new. I also play a "63 Gibson LG-3, which for recording rhythm strumming, can't be beat by anything I've put it up against. I use Elixer lite's and a soft triangle pick.
For single note stuff, the Martin wins hands down. The huge body has a unique "rise time" to it and the natural swell is very warm. Notes that are sustained produce very cool harmonics. The Rainsong guitars deserve a whole thread to themselves. To sum up....Apples and oranges. I lust over a Taylor nylon ... very responsive.


chazba
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I'm with you on everything till the Taylor nylon. I bought an NS-62 and though beautifully made, was awful in so many respects. From poor intonation to unusable electronics.......had to take it back. This isn't to rag on Taylors, there are plenty that are great.....that one however was a dud.
 
I did't start the thread to get advice. I like Taylors, will eventually buy one. I hate Martins, and have played many to try to understand why they are so legendary
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ahem... Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Steve Stallings. I am the founder of the www.umgf.com This is a site for those who appreciate Martin guitars as well as other fine instruments. I have nothing against Taylors. I've never dissed them or any other acoustic brand. I simply prefer Martins for the rich and complex tonality they provide. I would wager that I've probably played more Martins than any one on this forum. I've ran into a couple of less than stellar examples, but that is not the norm. Martin is more than a guitar.
It is a heritage of rich tradition and prideful craftsman. I've been to the Martin factory multiple times. I know many of the folks involved in the crafting of these guitars. They care. I own perhaps 20 or so guitars at the moment. (Sold off about 30 last year) Two of them are Martins as the rest are all electrics, pedal steels, basses, etc. Nothing fancy... I've got a D35 and a D16GT. Both are standard production guitars which were set up by my dealer. They are wonderful instruments which I enjoy. I sincerely doubt the veracity of your quoted statement.
 
I sincerely doubt the veracity of your quoted statement.[/QUOTE said:
Hey. I just wanted to say that I am well aware of the heritage of Martin guitars, which I think is awesome. I play a Gibson Les Paul, and it has the same kind of history behind it, albeit not as long. I have played every Martin I've had a chance to, so at least many dozen since I started playing 22 years ago. I think the problem with Martins for me is that I am primarily an electric player, and Martins ( at least the many I've tried) feel nothing like an electric. My guitars have very low action, and I use light strings, which makes them super easy to play. The other thing is that in comparison with Taylors, which seem to have a much brighter sound, Martins are well, kind of dead and flat sounding to me. The first Martin I ever played belonged to my friends father, and it was really bad - the strings were old, the action was high, and it had no body to it's sound. From there, the mystique and reputation always frustrated me because I've never found it. I mean no disrespect by saying that I hate the feel and sound of a Martin - I started the thread to see if anyone else had had the same experience/opinion. I guess it's just all in what you like.
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gibson59neck said:
and Martins ( at least the many I've tried) feel nothing like an electric.
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That's because it's not an electric.

I would hate to play an acoustic that felt like an electric.
 
I would wager that I've probably played more Martins than any one on this forum.
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I doubt that very much. I'll take you up on the wager how much??
 
Big Kenny said:
'Bout time we got around to a real pissin' match
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Martins sucks, Gibsons suck, Taylors suck. Fender is another brand you should stay away from.
 
SteveE9C6 said:
I would wager that I've probably played more Martins than any one on this forum.
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muttley600 said:
I doubt that very much. I'll take you up on the wager how much??
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You know, I was thinking the same thing....Let's see, probably one or two, sometimes three a day...six days a week...say 48 weeks out of the year...lets be concervative and assume that there are some repeats, and say around 450 this year? So, for the last (for instance) 5 years we're looking at around 2000.

But you do run a fine forum.


Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi
 
Light said:
You know, I was thinking the same thing....Let's see, probably one or two, sometimes three a day...six days a week...say 48 weeks out of the year...lets be concervative and assume that there are some repeats, and say around 450 this year? So, for the last (for instance) 5 years we're looking at around 2000.

But you do run a fine forum.


Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi
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Yeh, I wasn't trying to start a flame war just that you have to be careful making statements like that. I don't see as many per day, but I do see a lot when I'm out collecting and delivering setups at some of the outlets I visit. So I recon I could easily match that and over 20 years of making and repairing. Had a quick count in my book for this year so far April to April so still a few months to go and I've had over a hundred through my shop so far. Add the ones I noodle on when passing the time with shop clients.... I wouldn't like to count them.

Stlll think this whole thread is a waste of time. A Taylor is a Taylor and a Martin is a Martin. Wheres the debate in that. There are good and average in both camps in about the same numbers in my experience. I do get to work on more Martins than Taylors. Why that is may be something worth examining....??

Steve your forum is great by the way well done and keep the passion. :)
 
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