Taylors vs Martins

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Duditz said:
Any particular reason you're not a fan of bolt on necks?
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Maybe it's experience with those awful Fender acoustics from the 60's but except for tuners, I like all wood guitars to be all wood.
 
Have to agree, you have to take each guitar by it's own personality. I have a Taylor 710 and it has almost to much low end. Like Richard's above post, you have to play to the temperament of the guitar. I try not to look at the name of the guitar when going to buy one. I'm going to buy the one with the best tone.
 
For solo stuff, my Martin sounds the best. My Taylor sits in a mix better and for bluegrass or aggressive flatpicking, it's the Gibson. One size does not fit all, ask my wife......
 
Outlaws said:
Martin -VS- Taylor is like Gibson -VS- Fender. Its apples and oranges. You can't compare a Les Paul to a Strat because they make two completely different sounds.

You know why you think Martin sounds "dead" and "hard to play"? because you like the electric guitar action of the Taylor and the bright sound they produce. Martin is just a whole different ball game. If you played with your fingers and not a pick, you just might not like Taylor all the sudden.
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Based on your response, you seem to think you have it all figured out. I can and will compare any two brands I choose to because it's interesting to me to find out what other people think. Obviously, LP's and Strats are two very different guitars. To counter your annoying condescension, I do play with my fingers. I've played for a very long time. I've played about a million Martins, and without exception, they are difficult to play and sound like crap. That's my opinion. Which is what I started the thread for - I was curious to read other people's opinions about the two. Try responding from somewhere other than the saddle of your high horse. It tends to keep people from thinking of you as an opinionated slf-righteous dick.
 
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cmhansen said:
Have to agree, you have to take each guitar by it's own personality. I have a Taylor 710 and it has almost to much low end. Like Richard's above post, you have to play to the temperament of the guitar. I try not to look at the name of the guitar when going to buy one. I'm going to buy the one with the best tone.
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I did't start the thread to get advice. I like Taylors, will eventually buy one. I hate Martins, and have played many to try to understand why they are so legendary. I buy guitars based on lots of things, not just a name. I chose these two because they are popular upscale brands. I really wanted to see how many people would agree with me about the Martins. Just for the sake of entertainment. (Gibsons are nice too, but I like the way the Taylors sound and play above any others I've tried.)
 
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gibson59neck said:
Based on your response, you seem to think you have it all figured out.
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Well I have figured out that you are a troll, but thats about it.
 
I play a Gibson Les Paul Standard, a Fender Tele 72 Thinline, and an Epiphone Nuclear Extreme Les Paul copy. I also have a cheap Epi acoustic. I play through a Boss GT8 into a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe and a 69(ish) Fender Bassman head/cab. The two guitars I want to get next are a Nashville Tele Deluxe and a Taylor T5.
 
TelePaul said:
What do you play anyways?
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Style or guitar?

I play whatever I feel like at the moment. My guitar is a Martin, but I had a Taylor 710 before it. I only sold it because I wanted a little more "boom" in my tone than the Taylor had. I have never said Taylor is a bad guitar once. I have said its a brighter sound, and has more of an electric guitar type action, but I haven't ever said anything bad about it. They are great for leads. I loved that guitar. I just wanted something different at the time. I will buy another one someday when I can afford more than one guitar.
 
Light said:
First of all, they are completely different guitars, and trying to compare them is stupid. Second, if you've never played a good Martin, then you've not played many Martins, and you've never played a good old one. The single best sounding big guitar I've ever played was a 1934 D28 (the first year they ever made a fourteen fret Dred). There was nothing dead about that guitar. Nothing.

As for the differences, Martins in general have a lot more variablity and character than Taylors, though I will admit their factory setups are not as good as Taylors and their trebles can be a bit out of balance. Taylors, on the other hand, tend to be extremely consistant from guitar to guitar, their factory setups are almost right (which is better than any other guitar company out there), but they lack in individuality and are extremely light on the low end. They are light and shimmery, which actually works great in a rock/pop (and modern country) band situation because they just sit real nice in the mix. Taylors are completely lost, however, in any Bluegrass situation, and will never stand up to a Martin in a solo situation.


And a great Gibson Acoustic will blow away any Taylor ever made, and probably 85-90% of all Martins, in most Non-bluegrass situations.


Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi
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You said they are totally different, and that comparing them is stupid. Then you compared them. Stupid.
 
gibson59neck said:
You said they are totally different, and that comparing them is stupid. Then you compared them. Stupid.
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See, you are a troll.
 
gibson59neck said:
You said they are totally different, and that comparing them is stupid. Then you compared them. Stupid.
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That was more of a contrast....
 
TelePaul said:
That was more of a contrast....
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If you want to split hairs, the dictionary says that one synonym for contrast is COMPARE. Geez, people. Talk about an uppity bunch! Oh yeah. We're all musicians. Bunch of egos...
 
Outlaws said:
See, you are a troll.
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???? Can't figure you out. I guess if defending myself against people that talk down to and make assumptions about me makes me a troll, fuck it. I'm a troll!

Damn this place has a lot of knobs in it...
 
gibson59neck said:
If you want to split hairs, the dictionary says that one synonym for contrast is COMPARE. Geez, people. Talk about an uppity bunch! Oh yeah. We're all musicians. Bunch of egos...
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You must not be a musician then because I have never met one without an ego. :D :D :D

Infact, I think a synonym for Ego is Musician.
 
gibson59neck said:
fuck it. I'm a troll!
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He admitted it!!! :eek: :D :D

Well you seem pretty steadfast in your opinions of Martins...and thats garnd...but were you coming here in the hopes of being persuaded otherwise?
 
gibson59neck said:
???? Can't figure you out. I guess if defending myself against people that talk down to and make assumptions about me makes me a troll, fuck it. I'm a troll!

Damn this place has a lot of knobs in it...
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See, you started a thread about how much you hate Martins. Obviously you wanted to incite people to disagree and argue. That is called "trolling".
 
Outlaws said:
See, you started a thread about how much you hate Martins. Obviously you wanted to incite people to disagree and argue. That is called "trolling".
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I thought trolling was when you hang a net from the back of a boat and cruise along looking for fish?? :confused:

I'm not sure what Gibsonneck hoped to achieve. If he hates Martins so mcuh, did he want us to change his mind?
 
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