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Na Na Na Na .....Na Na Na Na .....hey hey.....Goodbye

Almost thought this was going to die......lol

Great Songwriter I wish you all the best.
Years ago I was supplying production and the system tech for a singer songwriter Dan Hill. I worked with Dan a few times before and it was always a pleasure as he is one of the nicest guys in the biz. During dinner I asked him about many of the Canadian AC acts that had lost their deals and the fact that the labels were not signing anything new. I asked him if he was concerned and without batting an eye he said not at all that his goal was not to be the greatest singer but to be a good songwriter. His first break into the US was with Peabo Bryston and that got his foot in the door. That was a long time ago but since then he has had cuts on with Anne Murray , Celin Dion and with the song “ I Swear “ went to # 1 in the R&B Charts with 98 Degrees and #1 with Mark Wills in the country charts.

I guess the moral of my little story is you have to stay focused and continually pound the pavement. Spend you money wisely and learn from your mistakes. The biggest thing and sometimes I forget this is that everyone measures success different……as you say it worked for you .
 
This thread has been quite entertaining.

Just as a point of fact, the song "I Swear" was written by Frank J. Myers and Gary Baker (published by Morganactive Songs, Inc. and Rick Hall Music, Inc.)
 
Entertaining is not the word.....its almost been a full time job...lol

You are correct sir I messed that up
The song was " I Do ( Cherish You ) "

Mark Wills 1998 #1 Country
98 Degrees 1999 #5 R&B/ Pop

Cheers
 
After six pages and this thing not dying, I figure I might as well join this thing.

As this is a HomeRecording BBS, I believe many of the members
here have made the decision to create and manufacture their own
products (ie music).Many of the members have a considerable
investment in time and money tied up in this pursuit.While some may be serious hobbiests, many are striving to make a business
out of this..

I believe most members already know the music industry is a business and already have a good idea what it takes to get signed to a label Blah Blah Blah.

The reason many of the members here have made the abovementioned investment is that they DON'T WANT TO BECOME
PART OF THE MUSIC ESTABLISHMENT.They would rather develop
their business plan around a local/regional strategy that they can control at least partially.

A homereccer can spend their time one of two ways, either build a small business locally using accepted business principles,such as
making realistic targets,watching your cash flow like a hawk and evaluating results until finding out what works, or they can spin the wheel and take their chances...The latter is SPECULATION and
puts your fate in the hands of others...Most small businesses would only commit 5%-10% of their resources on speculation and
only as an addition to their SOLID BASE.....

Every SPECULATOR out there is more than welcomed by "The Industry" as time and money spent sending in unsolicited material
and pissing around with self-help schemes---industry "councillors"
is time not spent building your own regional markets and thus
not eroding industry market share...

If I wrote a book called Making a $100,000 in your own small business where the the cost of goods is 10% of sales, everyone would go hohummmmmmm---Big Deal!!!!!! I only need to sell
about $9500.00 worth of widgets a month to do that!!!!

Why is the small business of operating a home recording production/distribution facility so different???????

The bottom line is that it is not.

By the way Dave, I'm not over the troll comment yet, so if you want to debate, I'm right here..

Graham.
 
Don't worry Graham. If there is blood in the water, he won't be far behind.:D
 
Hey Bob,

I guess we'll see...........

How's it going anyway?????

Graham.
 
I pretty much got the entire analog4 piece
I pretty much got all of Bobs piece.....good one Bob
As always I don't get Dave’s ......the quote and the reply don't make any sense to me at all.
Cheers
 
"How's it going anyway?????

Graham"

Fine, man. How's things up in B.C?
 
Hey Bob,

Getting better--Might have a economic development consulting
contract with the Gov't of Canada coming up.....

Winter has been relatively warm---poor buggers in the east got our weather..

Still looking for vinyl????

Graham.
 
You've got me confused with someone else.:cool:

Most of my vinyl dates back to the 60's!:D
 
Now,

To provide my opinion on the original question.........

For a home recording production/distribution facility subscribing
to the aforementioned websites should be considered as part of their speculation budget in terms of time and money.

The success and ongoing viability rests on established business
practices and such business concerns as establishing a core base
market and cash flow should come first.

As with any small business,indentifying your market is the first step.Corporations dominate most industries, so market nicheing
is required.

Some market niches that I am exploring:

Sale of locally produced music as souveniers to be sold in the tourist trade.Every locale is always looking for a locally made tourist item that transports easily and is not too costly.

Develop local resident awareness of homegrown music through
shows and community based involvement. (done)

Children's recordings. (this stuff wouldn't get airplay but is highly lucrative.)

For Canadians------The CRTC has a fast track program to establish
low wattage FM radio stations for First Nations communities--they will need a ton of programming of local artists to conform to their
licensing requirements---a solid potential market for production services...

Also--CRTC has a small market community license available.They
work like a public broadcasting station but can sell advertising if
30% of their content is local artists...Another solid market for small
production facilities.

I hope this helps and others can contribute some more ideas.

I'm just one of you guys..................

Graham.
 
Hey Bob,

Part of my above strategy was to establish a weekend vinyl record exchange in a local mall--basically to get people talking about music other than commercial radio--it's working and provides a nice little cash flow by the way----

Old folky stuff---let's see--Ian Tyson,Joni Mitchell,Joan Baez,
Kingston Trio, The Limelighters---Getting warm??????


Graham.
 
NURSE!!!!!
He's got gravy all over the place! Lookatit....all down his gown..... good thing that thing opens in the back buddy!


bd


Damn, I swore off this thread...now look what you guys made me do!
 
One of the stronger things ideas that we are working with is the established weekend warrior groups , the ethnic /wedding style groups and the musical theatre productions. The deal is they supply all the music we record and after any manufacturing costs and or mechanicals we do a 50 / 50 split. With the increase in the Casino market here in Ontario many groups have discovered that selling merch can be very lucrative. We have only done one so far but they have sold just under 3000 units.
Transfers from tape and vinyl to CD has been coming on strong for the last few months as well as offering complete DVD packages ( the ultimate Christmas gift )
The studio market has shifted and being creative is now a big part of keeping it alive.
 
A Good buddy of mine from Newfoundland is currently on a Carnival Ship doing sound and this is what he sent to lighten the load
 

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Pash,

Yeah, the "Audio Restoration" thing is big here in B.C. too, I get a lot of requests for vinyl to CD burns.--Could have something to do with being the local P/T record guy.......A little vertical integration...
I'll post some more ideas later......


Graham.
 
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