Studio Projects VTB-1?

[kid klash]

I still wouldnt want to see his penis :-/

That's my point - me neither!

* makes the sound Bart Simpson makes when he thinks of massaging his aunt's feet *

 

[Nakatira]

Hmmmm sounds like another lacky sucking Alan Hyatts cock.

Just what do you think is the hoax - do you need some more pics or what?

Go wipe Alans smegma off your face and brush your teeth loser

You seem to have some strong issues with homosexuality.

Aint gettin any from your hubby


On a serious note, if your all that great why dont you leave us with lower standards than, Prefferbly by a space ship

 

[studiomaster]

if your all that great, how come we don't hear your songs and shit? cause your shit?

 

[recordingpro]

if your all that great, how come we don't hear your songs and shit? cause your shit?

For one I have to get permission from people before I post their music (already told you that) - unless you want to go to the store and buy their CDs

For another it wouldn't do any good because your tooooo stupid to know the difference between something well produced and the sound of a jack hammer.

 

[mrface2112]

Why is it that any thread that even vaguely mentions Studio Projects just seems to attract this massive horde of idiots on parade?

i don't know, but i really wish it would stop. smells like a bunch of pissed off newbies on one side and on the other side people who would like to freelance more than they do but the home recording/digi001 crowd has cut into their living/clientele (or they've got something against Alan Hyatt for some reason) and they've got an axe to grind. or maybe not. but either way, it sucks.

and it makes me sad, b/c recordingpro's GOT some valid points and they're getting lost in all the BS.

SP makes some perfectly usable entry level gear. but i have a hard time thinking that anyone with the budget for (or access to) gear considerably better than that would consider it anywhere near "usable". that's to be expected.

someone who drives a jaguar every day wouldn't exactly have great things to say about a plymouth K car, but the K car does the job just fine for a 16 year old who's learning to drive.

once my gear got "better' than SP gear, it started sitting on the shelf far more often than not. so i'm in complete agreement that "there's something better" out there.....but at that pricepoint there's not much better stuff out there. and that's all i've been trying to say.


and no one's still answered my question from page 3. should someone who can't afford "good gear" just not even bother? or maybe they should go to a "real" studio?


cheers,
wade

 

[recordingpro]

you don't have to spend much more to beat what studio projects has

 

[CCS]

recordingpro,

When you initiated the original topic on SP mics, I responded and stated my opinion on the subject and my preference in not using budget mics. I think it's healthy to have open disagreements about products, without resorting to personal attacks.

You, on the other hand, have taken the original topic to new heights with your negative characterizations and persistent immature behavior. Based on the content of some of your comments, I suspect you probably worked for the Joe Meek line before it was bought out, which would explain some your personal attacks.

What you have managed to do quite well is create negative karma for yourself, along with some of the other sales people here. It might not mean much to you at this point in time, but I assure you, it will eventually come to full fruition. Everything we do in this life, including our actions behind a screen, have an impact at another point in time.

I hope things improve in your live, as your posts reflects someone in a great deal of pain, but it's not the way to get a point across. That's all I have to say on the subject.

 

[cannabis]

and it makes me sad, b/c recordingpro's GOT some valid points and they're getting lost in all the BS.

maybe

you would be kind enough

to point them out

to the rest of us

they seem to have gotten lost

in the wake of his trolls

someone who drives a jaguar every day wouldn't exactly have great things to say about a plymouth K car, but the K car does the job just fine for a 16 year old who's learning to drive.

why would a jaguar driver

even care to comment

on k cars?



this is purely entertainment

enjoy it



might even be alan

drumming up a little interest in

flagging sp sales

 

[recordingpro]

might even be alan

drumming up a little interest in

flagging sp sales

 

[chance]

This is too funny. It kind of reminds me of back in the 60's this rich kid got a new Corvette for graduation. Unfortunately he didn't know how to drive or maintain it, and it was thrashed in 6 months. I would higly recommend everyone to ignore this poster. No one can gain any usefull information. Posting only fuels stupidity.

 

[recordingpro]

This is too funny. It kind of reminds me of back in the 60's this rich kid got a new Corvette for graduation. Unfortunately he didn't know how to drive or maintain it, and it was thrashed in 6 months. I would higly recommend everyone to ignore this poster. No one can gain any usefull information. Posting only fuels stupidity.

So saith another Queen of cheap chinese trash - too bad so many on your last group buy had broken mics delivered to them

 

[mrface2112]

maybe you would be kind enough to point them out to the rest of us

yes, they seem to have gotten lost. the point is that there ARE better products than SP, and not for all that much more money. you just have to know where to look and be able to spot a good deal.

for instance: one can find RE20's or SM7's all day for right less than $300. couple that with the used Symetrix 528 i got for $180 (and you can often find for less than that), and you've got a pretty kickin signal chain for less than $500--$400 if you catch the right deals.

sure it's maybe $200 more than a C1/VTB1 combo, but the increase in quality is significantly more than that.

i think that's something along the lines of what Rpro's *trying* to say. he's just missing something in the delivery.

regardless, i still find the B1 to be a totally usable mic. very neutral, an excellent on drums, amps and anywhere else you'd stick an sm57. not at all hyped, and certainly "not any suckier than an sm57" (which is another debate entirely unto itself ).

as for alan, he might be a little heavy handed in the marketing and sometimes with folks on the forums, but my personal offline interactions with him have been excellent.

however, the fact that Alan's company provides excellent customer service and the fact that their products have gotten many a newbie recording at a "good" level of quality for such little money is undeniable.


cheers,
wade

 

[chessrock]

Recordingpro should be able to state his opinion without being attacked for it.

I'll tell you what I don't like. I don't like that cheap crap they sell in supermarkets that they try to pass off as coffee. Folgers ... Maxwell House ... etc. etc.

I just think it sucks. I've gotten a taste of the good stuff, and I can't go back now. When I want coffee, I try and get myself to the yuppiest neighborhood within shouting distance, and I try and find myself a fancy foo-foo cafe where I can get myself some real yuppy whiteboy coffee. Where they pull out the fresh beans and grind it up right there.

Now, if I should state that opinion and you should disagree with it ... you have every right to. But don't attack me and try to tell me that I have a vendetta against the Folger's company or against Columbia or whomever is distributing that Folgers crap. If you do, I'm going to get mad, and I'm going to climb down your throat for it. I like what I like, and if you have a problem with that, then go screw yourself.
.

 

[warble]

...once my gear got "better' than SP gear, it started sitting on the shelf far more often than not. so i'm in complete agreement that "there's something better" out there.....but at that pricepoint there's not much better stuff out there. and that's all i've been trying to say.

I can subscribe to this point of view. I know there is better, and I've heard better myself (although not owned).

 

[mrface2112]

Recordingpro should be able to state his opinion without being attacked for it.

agreed. but at the same time, there's a high road way of doing it and a low road way of doing it. take your pick as to which road he took.

and chess, i'm with you......once you've had the taste of the "better", it's hard to go back to the "not as good".

but it's like eddie murphy said with respect to crackers.....for the starving person, even a saltine will taste like a ritz. and we both know there's a lot of "starving" folks here. i just don't think it's very polite to call their saltines "crap" when it's all they have (or can afford) to eat.

and i think that analogy's *more* than appropriate here.


cheers,
wade

 

[cannabis]

Recordingpro should be able to state his opinion without being attacked for it.

I'll tell you what I don't like. I don't like that cheap crap they sell in supermarkets that they try to pass off as coffee. Folgers ... Maxwell House ... etc. etc.

I just think it sucks. I've gotten a taste of the good stuff, and I can't go back now. When I want coffee, I try and get myself to the yuppiest neighborhood within shouting distance, and I try and find myself a fancy foo-foo cafe where I can get myself some real yuppy whiteboy coffee. Where they pull out the fresh beans and grind it up right there.

Now, if I should state that opinion and you should disagree with it ... you have every right to. But don't attack me and try to tell me that I have a vendetta against the Folger's company or against Columbia or whomever is distributing that Folgers crap. If you do, I'm going to get mad, and I'm going to climb down your throat for it. I like what I like, and if you have a problem with that, then go screw yourself.
.

all coffee is shit

people that drink coffee

are pussies

coffee is for

people that are afraid

of real drugs



if you want to post

about coffee

go to caffeineweenies.com

and snivel and goo goo

about it there

 

[kid klash]

For one I have to get permission from people before I post their music (already told you that) - unless you want to go to the store and buy their CDs.

GREAT idea! I'd love to buy some of the CD's you've recorded. Name the CD's and I'll go buy them.

 

[Harvey Gerst]

For one I have to get permission from people before I post their music (already told you that) - unless you want to go to the store and buy their CDs.

Most artists these days have a website with music samples. Why not just post a link to their website?

Or, http://www.allmusic.com has producer and engineer credit listings. I'm on there, and so is my son Alex. Most professional engineers and producers that I know are always looking for new business. Why not list some credentials and a way to contact you?

 

[chessrock]

agreed. but at the same time, there's a high road way of doing it and a low road way of doing it. take your pick as to which road he took.

I don't know that his way of doing it was necessarily high road or low road. It was more like mid-road.

At first, mind you.

Then, a bunch of people start laying on the attacks and accusations. And once the attacks start mounding up, one post after another telling you that you're a gear snob or that you have a vendetta or whatever ... you get kind of angry, and you lose patience. And then all that high road stuff just kind of becomes impossible, no matter how good your intentions may have initially been. I'm speaking as someone who knows what it's like all too well.

If someone tells you your Mama's ugly, is it taking the low road to respond back that his/her Mama is twice as ugly? I just think that by that juncture, you should understand that he's merely responding to an attack or -- in Recordingpro's instance -- several.

and chess, i'm with you......once you've had the taste of the "better", it's hard to go back to the "not as good".

I love the Eddie Murphy quote by the way, but I'm not sure just how good my coffee analogy was. Because it's not necessarily about prefering expensive coffee over cheap coffee. It's more about prefering one type of coffee over the other.

Or, more appropriately, one type of microphone over the other. What if I think that SP sucks, but Nady just plain rocks? Does that make me a gear snob?
.

 

[stetto]

Recordingpro should be able to state his opinion without being attacked for it.

OK, let's see...

Recordingproctologist's 1st reply;

Studio Projects sucks - save your money for a real preamp

Ah yes, some real substance there, full of facts and indepth knowledge...No attacks either, unless someone saying that you suck feels like an attack...

...2nd;

HA you guys are funny - who's DJL? Why so touchy about cheap crappy chinese stuff - I suppose you get your clothes at Walmart too right?

Huh, just clean simple facts here...

3rd;

1073 or Portico mostly but I also rent whatever I need when I need it.

Referring to a claim that anyone can make on the internet. He knows he doesn't have to prove a thing.

4th;

an the price of what is? By the way studiomaster - you're a real piece of smegma aren't you - you don't even have the courage to sign your little kindergarten negative rep statement. You're just a cowardly little speck of nose globs and butt cheese

Still lookin' for his first personal attack. He's simply defending himself here, for why I doubt anyone is sure...

5th;

I don't take it seriously - I just think your a weasely, spineless, coward who obviously has no real life in the audio world so you hang out acting - I repeat ACTING - like someone with some knowledge.

I wipe my ass with guys like you and I have the guts to tell you to your face you little bag of sputum

Bravado is so easy on the 'net, ain't it?

6th;

I hear that - another good reason to avoid SP - so you can hear the music and not the SP crap

More expert knowledge being authoratatively expressed...I hate to say it, but this "guy" is a fraud...

7th;

funny how people call the truth arrogant - ignorance is bliss

...A clueless fraud to boot...

8th;

what's your budget? what style of music? what are we recording? drums? guitar? vox? clavinet? b3?
What's the room like? is it a bedroom closet or a cathedral?

NOW he wants to ask qualitative questions? After he impales any credibility he might have had? An inept fraud too...

9th;

I don't own a studio - I work in various studios - I do own some gear and a bunch of mics that i take with me to studios though and I can track some stuff at my house - I just don't have enough room for bands at home so why bother

I've got about 5 p4 3.0ghz for running orchestration and about 8 or 9 p4 2.66ghz (the 2.66ghz are getting phased out for more power) with too much software and plugs to list - they also serve as a mini rendering farm

I've got a pair of bottles with all the caps - a couple of u87 - a cactus - baby bottles - rode stuff k2, ntk - the studio project mics (c1,b1) 4 groove tubes mics gt44 and gt33 and too many other mics to write

pres - some robbies - 1073 - portico

and the list goes on.......

...List of bullshit. Like I said, anybody can make claims on the 'net. Learn his verbage from one forum, make himself a professional on another. F-R-A-U-D.

10th;

It's ok to be honest - no matter what goobers like "studiomaster" say - or should I say "studiomasturbater" - he's obviously been doing that so long he's gone blind

Man, it's a good thing this fraud isn't attacking anyone as well...

11th;

so I take it you're a moron also? Why do feel the need to attack someone simply because they gave an educated opinion about Studio Projects

Who drew first blood? so go smoke a bowl and eat some shut the f**K up with your munchies

Ok, if you haven't got a picture by now you must be Recording*not*pro...

12th;

Why bother, no use throwing pearls before swine

The quote is CASTING pearls before swine, and I seriously doubt that you either know what it means or who wrote it...

13th;

whatever

Huh, a real woman too...

14th;

I own a couple of Studio projects mics so that makes it MY gear. And if I run out of mics, I might drag them out of the mothballs and use them.

As far as posting I'll have to see if I can get permission..it's pretty uncool to put someones music on the web without permission not to mention illegal.

The word fraud comes to mind again...

15th;

I'm uploading some photos and it's really slow - do you need a picture of my penis also - just so you can see i'm a male?

Awright, a 13-year-old sociopathic fraud then...

16th;

here's a few items i have - I couldn't get everything in the photo and I've got a bunch of gear out on loan at friends studio.

"And you can't prove that I got these from the studio down the street where they told me that if don't quit hangin' around buggin' the musicians they'd 86 me for good this time"

17th;

did that on purpose just to piss you off, I got 2 x 30 inch lcds so it don't bug me a bit.

so maybe you should use something besides a 14inch crt , moron

Oh, the professionality and tact he possesses!

18th;

what's a matter Studiomasturbater? Found out someone knows what they're talking about and you can't take it?

You guys are the pieces of shite that started the whole thing. Why don't go go f*ck yourself

...

19th;

actually I can but some boards don't allow it.

You've proven that any wormhead can let their brainless colon fluids spew

I hope someone is keeping track of how much invaluable input we're getting on SP mics here...

20th;

Yeah here's how it works
Guys like you that have no cred in the real world stroke themselves till they cum acting like they know something about audio. Then when someone who actually does know something comes around and says there favorite chinese piece of shit isn't that great they crap themselves and start attacking in such a way that shows how completely brainless they are.

Yep I figured this board out.

Dude you couldn't even make coffee at a studio in the real world

At least Chessrock knows his stuff

They finally permanently 86'd him...

21st;

NO you retarded little child

Well, I'm certainly never going to buy another Studio Projects product!!

22nd;

yawn

Finally! A concensus!!

23rd;

nope just bored by the inability of people like you to have a reasonable discussion about gear. Now go wipe yourself with your Studio Projects and massage your prostrate with a 57 you little studiomasturbater

Uh, ok, a hypocritical 13-year-old sociopathic fraud...

24th;

a RNP, dmp3 or Brick is better than a vtb1 - a vtb1 will give you some gain but it trashes the audio for anyone who has ears - heck an old mackie 1604 will beat a vtb1 - I just saw one of those used for $250 at gear slutz - you'd get 16 pres with that and they beat the fake studio project tube pre anyday.

So now we're gonna redeem ourselves with an attempt at an informed opinion? JEZUZ...

25th;

go stroke your self studiomasturbater - must be hard for you being a cowardly little weasel

Ah, back to what he actually knows best...

26th;

I guess it's a good thing I don't work the bar circuit - nothing like those 50 dollar gigs in Idaho

I seriously doubt the fraud works in the music industry in ANY capacity...

27th;

Hmmmm sounds like another lacky sucking Alan Hyatts cock.

Just what do you think is the hoax - do you need some more pics or what?

Go wipe Alans smegma off your face and brush your teeth loser

Oh, but wait, it's not just the SP product that sucks, the owner is a bad man too...The knowledge we're gaining is simply awe-inspiring...

28th;

hey cool I'm collecting more red chiclets form all the losers and wannabes who don't know shit yet think they do

Yes, your fan base grows steadily...

29th;

For one I have to get permission from people before I post their music (already told you that) - unless you want to go to the store and buy their CDs

For another it wouldn't do any good because your tooooo stupid to know the difference between something well produced and the sound of a jack hammer.

How convenient for you. Be all the fraud you can be...

30th;

you don't have to spend much more to beat what studio projects has

And don't forget what a bad, bad person the owner is...

31st;

So saith another Queen of cheap chinese trash - too bad so many on your last group buy had broken mics delivered to them

...Sayeth the mighty fraud who spelleth good not but is first to condemn others' typos...

Well then, I'm now absolutely convinced that my mic cab is gonna have a lot more SP gear in it---The fraud simply doth protest too much...

BTW, did anyone tally up how many VALID points the fraud might have stumbled across?