Studio Projects LSD2 & C4... I think I'm in love

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DJL said:
How large are the diaphragms in the LSD-2?

They are the same capsules as the C3. So it is a 1.06” (27mm.) dual diaphragm capsule. The major difference is that we match the capsules in the LSD-2 as the match has to be more critical when using them in a vertically coincident manner.
 
Hey Alan:

Did you happen to catch Chessrock's thread about the "Musician's Advocate" company, where the CEO posted back and called Chessrock a freakin' idiot. After which, everybody jumped all over him for not acting in a professional CEO-like manner? See, you're becoming a trend-setter! :D
 
alanhyatt said:
They are the same capsules as the C3. So it is a 1.06” (27mm.) dual diaphragm capsule. The major difference is that we match the capsules in the LSD-2 as the match has to be more critical when using them in a vertically coincident manner.

I love my two C3 mic's, but now I'm a little confused about the matching of the two diaphragm capsules inside the C3, what is your accepted margin of difference between the two capsules inside the Studio Projects C3 mic? Thanks again.
 
littledog said:
Hey Alan:

Did you happen to catch Chessrock's thread about the "Musician's Advocate" company, where the CEO posted back and called Chessrock a freakin' idiot. After which, everybody jumped all over him for not acting in a professional CEO-like manner? See, you're becoming a trend-setter! :D

Yes I did, that was a good one. Did you see the post where Cheese Rock insulted the CEO in a manner that was very uncool... I suppose you did not, but then again, I guess you would not see the other side. Like I said, there are about five or six freekin idiots out there who think they are the rulers of the boards, and stop at nothing to harrass or start a flame against me.

If you go back to the beginning of this entire thread, you will see that it was not me that started the flaming. The rest of the good people on these threads know very well what I do. I am not a sales weasel, I do not force anyone to buy, nor do I try and tell them to go out and buy our products after each post I make. I answer their questions in a timely manner and speak to them direct, which is more than any other CEO does here. What is a professional CEO manner? Does it mean they have to take shit from people just because they represent or own a company? I think not.

If the majority wanted me off the boards, they would tell me. The five or six who do, well you know what they can do. In the meantime we have achieved a level of success with our products that is a CEO's wetdream. I think the reason for it is that I am in the public, talking and getting ideas from our customers to give them the products they need and can afford, not to mention products that sound good and are very well built. So, I will keep doing that, and as long as the five or six guys keep flaming me, I will continue to flame back. I don't like guys who simply bust balls for the fun of it.

I did not take that shit when I was a kid, and I will never take it as an adult...So here we stand, where do you want to go from here?
 
DJL said:
I love my two C3 mic's, but now I'm a little confused about the matching of the two diaphragm capsules inside the C3, what is your accepted margin of difference between the two capsules inside the Studio Projects C3 mic? Thanks again.

Well most manufacturers accept a +/- 2db sensitivity spec. The problem is, there can be a 4db difference between two mics. Even Neumann has this spec on many models.

One way I found to resolve the problem was to split the tested capsules into three sensitivity classes and code them with a color. For example, a capsule that has a spec of:

-35dB +/-1dB, is marked by a green dot on the packaging
-36~-37dB, is marked by a black dot on the packaging
-33~-34dB, is marked by a red dot on the packaging

This way to get a matched pair, you simply buy two mics with the same code or color dot on the outside of the packaging, and you are within 1dB.

As for the LSD-2, it is being done for you within a spec of 1/2 db, so they are about as close as you are going to get. I hope that helps.
 
alanhyatt said:
I did not take that shit when I was a kid, and I will never take it as an adult...So here we stand, where do you want to go from here?

:rolleyes:
 
alanhyatt said:
Yes I did, that was a good one. Did you see the post where Cheese Rock insulted the CEO in a manner that was very uncool... I suppose you did not, but then again, I guess you would not see the other side. Like I said, there are about five or six freekin idiots out there who think they are the rulers of the boards, and stop at nothing to harrass or start a flame against me.

If you go back to the beginning of this entire thread, you will see that it was not me that started the flaming. The rest of the good people on these threads know very well what I do. I am not a sales weasel, I do not force anyone to buy, nor do I try and tell them to go out and buy our products after each post I make. I answer their questions in a timely manner and speak to them direct, which is more than any other CEO does here. What is a professional CEO manner? Does it mean they have to take shit from people just because they represent or own a company? I think not.

If the majority wanted me off the boards, they would tell me. The five or six who do, well you know what they can do. In the meantime we have achieved a level of success with our products that is a CEO's wetdream. I think the reason for it is that I am in the public, talking and getting ideas from our customers to give them the products they need and can afford, not to mention products that sound good and are very well built. So, I will keep doing that, and as long as the five or six guys keep flaming me, I will continue to flame back. I don't like guys who simply bust balls for the fun of it.

I did not take that shit when I was a kid, and I will never take it as an adult...So here we stand, where do you want to go from here?

Now I'm confused about whether your use of "you" throughout this post is directed at me or at someone else. I was merely pointing out a thread that I thought you would find amusing. Why would you imply that I hadn't read a thread that I took the time and effort to draw to your attention? "I suppose you did not, but then again, I guess you would not see the other side..." What the hell is that supposed to mean? Just because we disagreed with eachother once on the value of high quality preamps makes me incapable of reading a thread?

I don't want to go anywhere from here. I prefer to continue being able to reasonably agree or disagree with you, depending on what you write, just as in the past. Perhaps you have me confused with someone else. As for busting balls, I'll admit that my occasionally irreverent style may not be every one's cup of tea, but you hardly seem the totally humorless sort. And I am also capable of reasoned discussion and helpful advice. And as you correctly point out, if the majority objected to my style, they'd let me know. I'm sorry that you feel I'm in your 4 or 5 person "Axis of Evil". I personally have no problem with your presence here. Unless this is the first sign of a descent into paranoia.

Now, of course, if none of this post was directed at me, then please forgive my bewilderment and confusion. But usually when someone starts a post with an excerpted quote from someone elses post, the logical reaction is the text underneath the quote is a response to the quote.
 
alanhyatt said:
Well most manufacturers accept a +/- 2db sensitivity spec. The problem is, there can be a 4db difference between two mics. Even Neumann has this spec on many models.

One way I found to resolve the problem was to split the tested capsules into three sensitivity classes and code them with a color. For example, a capsule that has a spec of:

-35dB +/-1dB, is marked by a green dot on the packaging
-36~-37dB, is marked by a black dot on the packaging
-33~-34dB, is marked by a red dot on the packaging

This way to get a matched pair, you simply buy two mics with the same code or color dot on the outside of the packaging, and you are within 1dB.

As for the LSD-2, it is being done for you within a spec of 1/2 db, so they are about as close as you are going to get. I hope that helps.

Yeah, that helps alot, and its good info to know. Thanks.

Oh, I can't find any Green, Black, or Red dots on any of my Studio Projects Mic packaging/boxes?
 
DJL said:
Yeah, that helps alot, and its good info to know. Thanks.

Oh, I can't find any Green, Black, or Red dots on any of my Studio Projects Mic packaging/boxes?

If they are older units, they may not have the markings. It is on all units from at least 6 to 10 months ago. They could also be in your manual where the serial number is. If not, then it is an older C3 before we started this new program, but if you want, we can get them in and test them for you to let you know the sensitivity
 
littledog said:

Now, of course, if none of this post was directed at me, then please forgive my bewilderment and confusion. But usually when someone starts a post with an excerpted quote from someone elses post, the logical reaction is the text underneath the quote is a response to the quote.

No, it was not directed to you...:)

I can see where you would take that it was, but that was my fault. It was not intended towards you. I am sorry if it came out that way, but I was on a roll.....
 
Ho Hum..........here we are again.

Seems a bit like deja vu:eek:

:cool:
 
Oooopppssss.......................Sorry Alan, my comment wasn't directed at your post, but at jslator. Hopefully he is satisfied with speaking his mind and will now let it rest as it should.

:cool:
 
I think the reason for it is that I am in the public, talking and getting ideas from our customers to give them the products they need and can afford, not to mention products that sound good and are very well built.

That is exactly why I bought your products. I like that you're around Alan. I know it must be tough sometimes. I think it's OK that you believe in your products too. I think it's fine that you get a little excited when you have something new to show off.

Tribulation worketh patience. You're going to be a very patient man when this is all over. :D

Blessings, Terry
 
alanhyatt said:
If they are older units, they may not have the markings. It is on all units from at least 6 to 10 months ago. They could also be in your manual where the serial number is. If not, then it is an older C3 before we started this new program, but if you want, we can get them in and test them for you to let you know the sensitivity

Oh ok, my SP mic's must have been made before the colored dot system. I'm happy with all my Studio Projects mic's so its not necessary to test them, but thank you very much for the offer. I'll look for the green dots when buying SP pairs in the furure tho. Oh, do the B-series mic's also have the colored dot system? Thanks again.
 
DJL said:
Oh ok, my SP mic's must have been made before the colored dot system. I'm happy with all my Studio Projects mic's so its not necessary to test them, but thank you very much for the offer. I'll look for the green dots when buying SP pairs in the furure tho. Oh, do the B-series mic's also have the colored dot system? Thanks again.

Yes, they all have them now. So to order pairs from a dealer, make sure they know to send you two of the same color...Simple as that.

To all the others...thank you for the support. Patience is not my better side...but I am trying. I appreciate those who see the merit of my being here, and am glad you all offer support and suggestions. That is how we listen to your needs and get you new product...:D
 
alan, just to cap things off. I may have missed it.. and Can't find the info on the other threads... but.... When exactly are these mics going to be available? (C4's that is...) and are all the usual SP-carrying locations going to be carrying the C4's?

-Brent
 
Let me just say that I am a junkie of a number of these sites where Alan Hyatt is a frequent contributor. I have never seen Alan say anything that remotely resembled a sales weasel. To the contrary, I've seen Alan recommend other company's mics for certain applications.

Like any proud creator, Alan is proud of what he makes. Why shouldn't he be? His company has done more to break the price-performance barrier for home recorders than any other.

Alan, keep making great products, and keep posting on these sites. The vast majority of us appreciate your insites. In the immortal words of Bono, "don't let the bastards grind you down."
 
BradD said:
I have never seen Alan say anything that remotely resembled a sales weasel.

How about when he accuses well-respected and honorable retailers of lying and being paid-off for their opinions just because they don't agree that Alan's gear is all he claims it to be (i.e. Fletcher and the VTB-1)? Or when he makes completely bogus claims about the originality of his "innovations" (i.e. cheap pre with "tube blend" or a stereo large diaphragm condensor)? How about when he threatens to sue a customer for publicly stating disatisfaction with Alan's service and bullies that person with the threat of legal action into cancelling the thread so nobody else can see the complaints (as happened on Harmony Central a while back)?

Hey, I think it's great that Alan makes a lot of cheap gear that home recordists seem to love. I also admire him for at least one thing - his marketing ability. The way he leverages forums like this is truly a form of art. He really gets people eating out of his hand. Make no mistake though, he's here to sell products, not provide "insights". He'll do or say anything, however false or unethical, as long as he thinks it will move more units. He's a model Machiavellian.
 
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