TexRoadkill
Audio Bum
Re: this just in
He is very correct but there is one minor detail missing. Recording schools don't give degrees. They give bullshit certificates. You need to go to a college to get a degree and if you studied audio engineering at a college I would agree completely with your uncle.
Thirst said:
He is very correct but there is one minor detail missing. Recording schools don't give degrees. They give bullshit certificates. You need to go to a college to get a degree and if you studied audio engineering at a college I would agree completely with your uncle.
wheelema
Boner-obo
Well, before Thirst jumps back with 'fuck you', 'and GO TO THE WEBSITE AND SEE FOR URSELF', FullSail does offer an A.A.. Why you would be so butt fuck stupid as to drop $40K for an A.A., I have no idea, but I guess there are a boatload of people who do. Kind of gives me hope for my own business!
If you go to the FullSail website absolutely choose low bandwidth, regardless. The high bandwidth site is cutesy overload.
These are the courses, with my sarcastic interpretation as a value added feature and to give Thirst a chance to slam me with "YOU DONT KNO".
Advanced Audio Workstations
"01100101001001... it's the code of power and it's your desire to decipher it. Learn the craft and wizardry of digital audio, weaving hardware and software technologies and techniques into a mesmerizing aural vision"
Check out sequencing software on our Dell computers
Audio Postproduction
You accidentally hit the mute button while watching your favorite Jeet-Yung-Chow fight scene and you're stunned by the effect. Mojo, the hero, didn't come close to the evil warlord with those nunchuks. The incident fired your imagination to pursue audio for film and video games. Here's your chance to submerge yourself in the behind the scenes magic of sound design and editing in the postproduction world
Learn how to use sequencing software on our Dell computers
Audio Workstations
Today's market has exploded with recording options, putting extreme demands on the audio neophyte. Look at the typical job description. You could swear they were looking for a da Vinci, someone with skills ranging between techno-savant and creative genius. So you're not da Vinci, but you have the drive and a not-too-shabby creative mind. Here's a chance to own plenty of practical experience with cutting-edge computer-based recording. Make the digital audio workstation your palette and brushes as you learn the new digital audio technology, terminology, and techniques
More learning how to use sequencing software on our Dell comptuers. I bet Thirst sees himself in the "have the drive and a not-too-shabby creative mind" marketing drivel.
Audiotronics
You're assistant engineer on a big-money project. The drummer hits the snare, and nerve-jangling static fries the track. The engineer screams "Fix it!"... After four hours of hard work, you've built a fabulous soundscape in Pro Tools. Suddenly the system locks and won't reboot... Your best friend is building a home studio. He asks advice on design and construction. You only mouth gibberish... You awake with a scream. You're having a nightmare. You fall back to sleep easily, remembering you learned the basics of studio maintenance and software/hardware issues in Audiotronics.
God! You gotta love 'em. Learn how to run cable and rudimentary PC troubleshooting. I loved the back handed slam of home recording. All you poor bastards who can't understand a real pro recording artist. I feel for you.
Behavioral Science
Explore the fascinating realm of your psyche. Become one with yourself. Learn how to monitor your own behavior and achieve Zen-like comfort whether you're taking a test or giving a presentation.
Sounds kind of like a mix of pop psychology and public speaking. Oohhhhm, oohhhhm....
Business Communications
You are your own best salesperson. Master writing and speaking your way into the career of your choice.
Oh yeah, Thirst, THIS course is for you.
Computers, Math and the Internet
Break down the basics of these powerful tools. Scope out the inside of your computer and the vast expanse of the Internet. No longer will you simply use it; you'll be able to understand it.
Kind of a weird combination, but you'll be able to understand it!
Entertainment Business and Law
You've got great ideas, and you don't want anyone stealing them. Learn about the laws and structure that will help you promote product throughout the entertainment industry.
Hmmmm.... Shame I am the sarcastic cynical type of guy.... Here Thirst, I'll give you this one. You can only copyright (not copywrite... don't shame yourself) written works. Put your ideas in writing and send them to the Screen Writers guild (yeah, yeah, I know, you're not a screen writer). Cheaper and easier than trying to copyright your work. Mailing shit to yourself does not work. Sending your efforts to anybody, specially Disney, will only profit who you send it to, because they have MONEY and LAWYERS, and are SMART SMART SMART... YOU on the other hand....
Essential Skills for the Audio Industry
This is where you learn how to mind your manners all over again. Take the things your mom told you and ramp 'em up to a whole new level. Understand the proper protocol within the professional audio industry. Hint: Good attitude equals good paycheck.
Wow. Can't slam this one Thirst.... suddenly $40K is looking kind of reasonable!
Introduction to Media Arts
It's like boot camp for your brain. Get more than basic training on the technical facets of entertainment media and the terms that go with them. Learn how to interact with your own kind regardless of their specialty.
Oh lord, I love it... "your own kind". Sounds like an intro to industry terminology.
Media and Society
Get in touch with your inner marketing mogul. Familiarize yourself with the various types of media product, while learning how to market, distribute, and sell them. Learn how the power of media impacts society today.
Woah! Your inner marketing mogul! This is so damn vague even I can't slam it.
MIDI
Strange word. Cool premise. Keyboards and computers work together to make some of the best-selling music today. It's the language class you won't mind taking.
Musical instrument digital interface. It's an acronym, not a word! Get a book!
There are two more pages of marketing fluff, but I'm tired now. Need to recharge with something serious and truly educational.... where's that copy of Pulp Fiction??
If you go to the FullSail website absolutely choose low bandwidth, regardless. The high bandwidth site is cutesy overload.
These are the courses, with my sarcastic interpretation as a value added feature and to give Thirst a chance to slam me with "YOU DONT KNO".
Advanced Audio Workstations
"01100101001001... it's the code of power and it's your desire to decipher it. Learn the craft and wizardry of digital audio, weaving hardware and software technologies and techniques into a mesmerizing aural vision"
Check out sequencing software on our Dell computers
Audio Postproduction
You accidentally hit the mute button while watching your favorite Jeet-Yung-Chow fight scene and you're stunned by the effect. Mojo, the hero, didn't come close to the evil warlord with those nunchuks. The incident fired your imagination to pursue audio for film and video games. Here's your chance to submerge yourself in the behind the scenes magic of sound design and editing in the postproduction world
Learn how to use sequencing software on our Dell computers
Audio Workstations
Today's market has exploded with recording options, putting extreme demands on the audio neophyte. Look at the typical job description. You could swear they were looking for a da Vinci, someone with skills ranging between techno-savant and creative genius. So you're not da Vinci, but you have the drive and a not-too-shabby creative mind. Here's a chance to own plenty of practical experience with cutting-edge computer-based recording. Make the digital audio workstation your palette and brushes as you learn the new digital audio technology, terminology, and techniques
More learning how to use sequencing software on our Dell comptuers. I bet Thirst sees himself in the "have the drive and a not-too-shabby creative mind" marketing drivel.
Audiotronics
You're assistant engineer on a big-money project. The drummer hits the snare, and nerve-jangling static fries the track. The engineer screams "Fix it!"... After four hours of hard work, you've built a fabulous soundscape in Pro Tools. Suddenly the system locks and won't reboot... Your best friend is building a home studio. He asks advice on design and construction. You only mouth gibberish... You awake with a scream. You're having a nightmare. You fall back to sleep easily, remembering you learned the basics of studio maintenance and software/hardware issues in Audiotronics.
God! You gotta love 'em. Learn how to run cable and rudimentary PC troubleshooting. I loved the back handed slam of home recording. All you poor bastards who can't understand a real pro recording artist. I feel for you.
Behavioral Science
Explore the fascinating realm of your psyche. Become one with yourself. Learn how to monitor your own behavior and achieve Zen-like comfort whether you're taking a test or giving a presentation.
Sounds kind of like a mix of pop psychology and public speaking. Oohhhhm, oohhhhm....
Business Communications
You are your own best salesperson. Master writing and speaking your way into the career of your choice.
Oh yeah, Thirst, THIS course is for you.
Computers, Math and the Internet
Break down the basics of these powerful tools. Scope out the inside of your computer and the vast expanse of the Internet. No longer will you simply use it; you'll be able to understand it.
Kind of a weird combination, but you'll be able to understand it!
Entertainment Business and Law
You've got great ideas, and you don't want anyone stealing them. Learn about the laws and structure that will help you promote product throughout the entertainment industry.
Hmmmm.... Shame I am the sarcastic cynical type of guy.... Here Thirst, I'll give you this one. You can only copyright (not copywrite... don't shame yourself) written works. Put your ideas in writing and send them to the Screen Writers guild (yeah, yeah, I know, you're not a screen writer). Cheaper and easier than trying to copyright your work. Mailing shit to yourself does not work. Sending your efforts to anybody, specially Disney, will only profit who you send it to, because they have MONEY and LAWYERS, and are SMART SMART SMART... YOU on the other hand....
Essential Skills for the Audio Industry
This is where you learn how to mind your manners all over again. Take the things your mom told you and ramp 'em up to a whole new level. Understand the proper protocol within the professional audio industry. Hint: Good attitude equals good paycheck.
Wow. Can't slam this one Thirst.... suddenly $40K is looking kind of reasonable!
Introduction to Media Arts
It's like boot camp for your brain. Get more than basic training on the technical facets of entertainment media and the terms that go with them. Learn how to interact with your own kind regardless of their specialty.
Oh lord, I love it... "your own kind". Sounds like an intro to industry terminology.
Media and Society
Get in touch with your inner marketing mogul. Familiarize yourself with the various types of media product, while learning how to market, distribute, and sell them. Learn how the power of media impacts society today.
Woah! Your inner marketing mogul! This is so damn vague even I can't slam it.
MIDI
Strange word. Cool premise. Keyboards and computers work together to make some of the best-selling music today. It's the language class you won't mind taking.
Musical instrument digital interface. It's an acronym, not a word! Get a book!
There are two more pages of marketing fluff, but I'm tired now. Need to recharge with something serious and truly educational.... where's that copy of Pulp Fiction??
wheelema
Boner-obo
Now, THIS is interesting....
http://fullsailsucks.com/newreviews.html
Here Thirst, I'll help you out....
QUOTE MEEEEEEEEEEE
... update...
I was reading some of the postings on the above web site and came across a suggestion to look into Citrus College. It's in Glendora, CA.. Glendora is adjacent to Glendale, just north of L.A.. Rents are not cheap however.
Here is the PDF of their program.... http://www.citruscollege.edu/pio/inst_brochures/recording.pdf
http://fullsailsucks.com/newreviews.html
Here Thirst, I'll help you out....
QUOTE MEEEEEEEEEEE
... update...
I was reading some of the postings on the above web site and came across a suggestion to look into Citrus College. It's in Glendora, CA.. Glendora is adjacent to Glendale, just north of L.A.. Rents are not cheap however.
Here is the PDF of their program.... http://www.citruscollege.edu/pio/inst_brochures/recording.pdf
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sk8ingsnowman
New member
rvdsm said:
The things they pay me for are things I learned at school. Not complicated. If I would not have gone to school I would be doing the same thing all the other interns are doing working for free. The worst thing I see is the other interns MEMORIZE how to do things but they really don't know what it is they are doing and could not apply it to anything else i.e. a new piece of gear.
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rvdsm
New member
This is going to be my final word on the subject. I'm tired of covering the same territory over and over. I should have known better than get into this, but damn it I feel that Full Sail is a joke and here is why I feel that way.
When you borrow money from the government and ask your loved ones to take out loans for you so you can attend a degree-granting institution that promotes a high success rate for graduates, you expect the degree you get to be worth something. When you go to interview after interview after interview and each studio manager looks you in the face and tells you that your degree gets you nothing over the average person walking through the door, the thought that enters your head is; Then why did I go in the first place if the degree doesn't earn me anything? Why did I pay over $40,000 to go to a school that can't guarantee I will have a paying job upon graduation?
After a few years of interviews ending in the same result, you begin to think that you could have taken the $40,000 you spent on school and set yourself up in the city for a while so you could work these unpaid internships. You realize you could have taken the $40,000 you spent on school and purchased your own studio. Once you go to a state university and try to get them to accept your "credits" from Full Sail and are told that Full Sail is not an accredited school and none of the courses you took can be considered credit toward a REAL degree, you start to come unglued. The only thing you are left with is a $40,000 life lesson. The lesson? If all I wanted was an education in the field, I would have kept my money and taught MYSELF!!!
After experiencing all of this you come to a recording forum years later and find a post about someone thinking about going to Full Sail. You try to warn them of the dangers involved with going and you are told that you are a loser who didn't give his all.
Listen, if you want to pay $40,000 for an education that's only going to mean something TO YOU, then by all means do it. That's all.
When you borrow money from the government and ask your loved ones to take out loans for you so you can attend a degree-granting institution that promotes a high success rate for graduates, you expect the degree you get to be worth something. When you go to interview after interview after interview and each studio manager looks you in the face and tells you that your degree gets you nothing over the average person walking through the door, the thought that enters your head is; Then why did I go in the first place if the degree doesn't earn me anything? Why did I pay over $40,000 to go to a school that can't guarantee I will have a paying job upon graduation?
After a few years of interviews ending in the same result, you begin to think that you could have taken the $40,000 you spent on school and set yourself up in the city for a while so you could work these unpaid internships. You realize you could have taken the $40,000 you spent on school and purchased your own studio. Once you go to a state university and try to get them to accept your "credits" from Full Sail and are told that Full Sail is not an accredited school and none of the courses you took can be considered credit toward a REAL degree, you start to come unglued. The only thing you are left with is a $40,000 life lesson. The lesson? If all I wanted was an education in the field, I would have kept my money and taught MYSELF!!!
After experiencing all of this you come to a recording forum years later and find a post about someone thinking about going to Full Sail. You try to warn them of the dangers involved with going and you are told that you are a loser who didn't give his all.
Listen, if you want to pay $40,000 for an education that's only going to mean something TO YOU, then by all means do it. That's all.
wheelema
Boner-obo
Matthew 7:6 "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces."
Put's me in mind of some people I've run into on this board. Well, it's been fun. Think I'll quit too.
Put's me in mind of some people I've run into on this board. Well, it's been fun. Think I'll quit too.
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sk8ingsnowman
New member
alright this is my last post as well:
I don't want to call anyone a loser, because none of the Full Sail losers would even be reading this message board because they are too busy partying and dreaming about working with the neptunes.
Bottom Line is Full Sail is only right for a very very small percentage of people. That makes it almost impossible to recomend or not recomend the school to other people. I am not recommending anyone go to this school but I don't want people to think this school is a joke either.
it worked for ME it did NOT help me get my foot in the door but once I was in I moved faster up the ladder then all of the other interns.
Also having an A.S. degree got me a promotion and higher salery at my full-time job
peace
I don't want to call anyone a loser, because none of the Full Sail losers would even be reading this message board because they are too busy partying and dreaming about working with the neptunes.
Bottom Line is Full Sail is only right for a very very small percentage of people. That makes it almost impossible to recomend or not recomend the school to other people. I am not recommending anyone go to this school but I don't want people to think this school is a joke either.
it worked for ME it did NOT help me get my foot in the door but once I was in I moved faster up the ladder then all of the other interns.
Also having an A.S. degree got me a promotion and higher salery at my full-time job
peace
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coltranedunn
New member
question full sail, $40K?
That sounds very expensive. MI wasn't anywhere near that. With grants and schollerships, I think I only ended up paying $1200 out of the $10000 tuition, and I knew people who didn't have to pay squat. I don't know much about full sail, but if anyone is going to spend that kind of cashish, maybe they should look around. You could go to Berkley for that.
I had 24 hour access to the school, and the preproduction labs, and got many of hours on my own in the big studios which featured SSL, and Neve consoles in a professional environment.
That sounds very expensive. MI wasn't anywhere near that. With grants and schollerships, I think I only ended up paying $1200 out of the $10000 tuition, and I knew people who didn't have to pay squat. I don't know much about full sail, but if anyone is going to spend that kind of cashish, maybe they should look around. You could go to Berkley for that.
I had 24 hour access to the school, and the preproduction labs, and got many of hours on my own in the big studios which featured SSL, and Neve consoles in a professional environment.
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Thirst
New member
^lmao ummm.. berklee school of music here in boston where I am from is over 120k for a BA in sound engineering and incase your wondering, they dont offer an associates degree..
joro
The Pie Guy
U Mass... Lowell Campus has an audio engineering program...
If you are there already....just change over...
A degree in any art or science is basically a calling card to whatever employer in whatever field........
It only states that you have the ability to learn...
The acid test is developing your skills and work ethics in the real world where results and money are the only things that really matter............
you are young man....
you can do whatever you want however, the choices you make now will effect you for the rest of your life.....
Good luck
Joe
If you are there already....just change over...
A degree in any art or science is basically a calling card to whatever employer in whatever field........
It only states that you have the ability to learn...
The acid test is developing your skills and work ethics in the real world where results and money are the only things that really matter............
you are young man....
you can do whatever you want however, the choices you make now will effect you for the rest of your life.....
Good luck
Joe
Flo' Dolo
New member
Many years ago I got fooled into thinking that if I graduated from the Art Institute of Atlanta I'd be able to get good studio jobs.
Well, after a year of people telling me that my ideas were "to outlandish," or "to unconventional," or "just plain ridiculous," I finally got a clue. I quit putting myself in debt and flipped the whole script. Left the Art Institute & started doing things instead of talking about it. First major work came less than 8 months later, doing remixes for major label acts - and not on spec, either. My buddies who finished at the A.I. were, in fact, worse for the wear than I was by a long shot. They were all hella jaded, hella cocky, and hella hungry - hungry cuz they couldn't get jobs for shit. We all worked at Tower Records and shit like that, only I was a part-timer cuz I got a gig doing real work in the field I was interested in - engineering music.
The shit you learn at those schools you can learn just as well and a whole lot cheaper at any school offering audio engineering courses. A.A. degress don't mean shit, and neither do Bachelor's (and in many cases master's & Ph.d's). If you goto a comm. college, you'll have enough dough left from your cheaper tuiton to get that PT certification if you want to. You can also pay for some software workshops to get you quickly up to speed on whatever software packages you think are important to you.
I ain't telling you not to go, but these folks have all offered you some really sound advice. I wish I had this same info when I was 20 years old. It woulda saved me a year of bullshit. You can learn what you want from these shools, true enough, but the cost-to-value ratio sucks straight up ass. For 15 grand a year, you can live with me and get all the engineering on you can stand. Compunded by the fact that there really are next to no jobs available in the field, a community college, good professors, and some inititive on your part will take you waaaaaay farther. Well, it worked for me, at least...
Trust me, Thirst, what you get out of Full Sail won't be worth it when you're paying back all those damn loans for the next 10 years after you graduate. You're still hella young. Why don't you goto a comm. college for a year & THEN look at Full Sail again & see if they offer you something you don't already have within your grasp? You can always transfer, and what you've learned can only help you. I'd be willing to bet you wouldn't find shit worth transferring for if you take away all the smooth talk about job placement & shit. Don't be dazzled by all the goodies they show you - they ain't yours, and they won't be giving any of that shit to you. Besides, owning it won't make you a better engineer. Sometimes, I still track stuff to my old Portastudio just because...
Be as wise as you can be. Make the best choice you're capable of at this moment in your life. And, don't ever forget that one doesn't have to do something, or have been somewhere to know what the dilly is. You don't gotta get shot to know that bullets hurt and can even kill. Same goes with schools, broads, jobs, and so on...
Good luck. Have fun in Florida. Spend your loot on community college & buy yourself some modest gear. Apply what you learn in school to what you do at home, and most importantly, apply what you do at home to what you do in school. That's where the shine really is.
<conversely, you can just tell me to fuck off, too. All's well, either way...>
diendolo
Well, after a year of people telling me that my ideas were "to outlandish," or "to unconventional," or "just plain ridiculous," I finally got a clue. I quit putting myself in debt and flipped the whole script. Left the Art Institute & started doing things instead of talking about it. First major work came less than 8 months later, doing remixes for major label acts - and not on spec, either. My buddies who finished at the A.I. were, in fact, worse for the wear than I was by a long shot. They were all hella jaded, hella cocky, and hella hungry - hungry cuz they couldn't get jobs for shit. We all worked at Tower Records and shit like that, only I was a part-timer cuz I got a gig doing real work in the field I was interested in - engineering music.
The shit you learn at those schools you can learn just as well and a whole lot cheaper at any school offering audio engineering courses. A.A. degress don't mean shit, and neither do Bachelor's (and in many cases master's & Ph.d's). If you goto a comm. college, you'll have enough dough left from your cheaper tuiton to get that PT certification if you want to. You can also pay for some software workshops to get you quickly up to speed on whatever software packages you think are important to you.
I ain't telling you not to go, but these folks have all offered you some really sound advice. I wish I had this same info when I was 20 years old. It woulda saved me a year of bullshit. You can learn what you want from these shools, true enough, but the cost-to-value ratio sucks straight up ass. For 15 grand a year, you can live with me and get all the engineering on you can stand. Compunded by the fact that there really are next to no jobs available in the field, a community college, good professors, and some inititive on your part will take you waaaaaay farther. Well, it worked for me, at least...
Trust me, Thirst, what you get out of Full Sail won't be worth it when you're paying back all those damn loans for the next 10 years after you graduate. You're still hella young. Why don't you goto a comm. college for a year & THEN look at Full Sail again & see if they offer you something you don't already have within your grasp? You can always transfer, and what you've learned can only help you. I'd be willing to bet you wouldn't find shit worth transferring for if you take away all the smooth talk about job placement & shit. Don't be dazzled by all the goodies they show you - they ain't yours, and they won't be giving any of that shit to you. Besides, owning it won't make you a better engineer. Sometimes, I still track stuff to my old Portastudio just because...
Be as wise as you can be. Make the best choice you're capable of at this moment in your life. And, don't ever forget that one doesn't have to do something, or have been somewhere to know what the dilly is. You don't gotta get shot to know that bullets hurt and can even kill. Same goes with schools, broads, jobs, and so on...
Good luck. Have fun in Florida. Spend your loot on community college & buy yourself some modest gear. Apply what you learn in school to what you do at home, and most importantly, apply what you do at home to what you do in school. That's where the shine really is.
<conversely, you can just tell me to fuck off, too. All's well, either way...>
diendolo
stonepiano
Member
rvdsm said:
No school guarantees anything.
My degree cost $140,000+ and I had to work at guitar center for a year after graduating.
harley96
New member
I'll put my 2 cents in, I work fulltime at Ford Motor Co. here in Detroit.My work was willing to pay $4800.00 a year for any classes at any school as long as the school is licensed by the State of Michigan.Considering one of my main passions happens to be recording I found a school in Eastpointe ,Michigan.Recording Institute of Detroit.They happen to be licensed by the State of Michigan so I enrolled there.I went there and took all there classes at the time over a period of like 2 years.I learned a shit load while attending classes there and did alot of hands on work while attending classes there.My instructor was Bob Dennis who worked at Motown Records as a mastering engineer in the 60's and has worked on countless hits throughout the years.Very,very smart man.Considering I love this stuff I was like the teachers pet and received high marks and was offered the opportunity to come in and help out on sessions on the side, which I did.At no time did I expect to receive a job offer and of course no job offer came my way.Getting into a major studio and receiving a real paycheck is like hitting the lottery.The majority of commercial studios are just getting by and paying there overhead costs and very few engineers actually make 25K a year let alone the big money.I remember a couple of the engineers told me they could just about make as much money flipping burgers but it's the passion that drives them and these guys are very good engineers.Most of them make there money off the clock in there home studios.If you want an education than by all means go there but don't expect a real salary in return.My buddy went to full sail and ended up at guitar centers.I on the other hand went for the knowledge because I have a good job and I didn't have to pay for the classes and I've bought a nice home studio in the process. I look at this as more of a hobby I get paid for than a career and so I'm happy with the returns.Like Blue Bear said, A guy with real world studio experience and a resume stacked with past clients is going to land that job before anybody coming out of a recording school.If it's the passion that drives you GO FOR IT..
If it's "I'm going to make 60k a year after I graduate" you are probably going to be sorely dissappointed!!! Trust me, I'm not trying to crush anybody's dream I'm just looking at reality and if you go into this with the right perspective and goals than you won't be dissappointed.
If it's "I'm going to make 60k a year after I graduate" you are probably going to be sorely dissappointed!!! Trust me, I'm not trying to crush anybody's dream I'm just looking at reality and if you go into this with the right perspective and goals than you won't be dissappointed.
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ProJect
New member
HAIL THE GREAT THIRST!!!
He has tought us all a valuable lesson! That is: Buy the big flashy lights and make it big workin with P-Diddy!
Here's my advice to you. You want money, get into real estate. You want a job in the recording arts, learn some basics and MEET people. GET CONNECTIONS. And for education, listen to Christopher Dawn. He knows what he's talking about. I'm taking his advice and taking the UW course next year. I was planning to go to Full Sail, too... but I realized that they're just a business. A very successful one. Of course you'll learn there, but you'll learn the same stuff no matter what. You don't need to shell out for it. I've saved up about $26,000 for college. Through UW, I'll be spending about $2,400 of it. That means I'll have $23,600 to spend on recording equipment. Of course, I don't expect to make it rich. I just expect to do what I love and not be broke as shit. If I went to Full Sail, I'd be in debt.
He has tought us all a valuable lesson! That is: Buy the big flashy lights and make it big workin with P-Diddy!
Here's my advice to you. You want money, get into real estate. You want a job in the recording arts, learn some basics and MEET people. GET CONNECTIONS. And for education, listen to Christopher Dawn. He knows what he's talking about. I'm taking his advice and taking the UW course next year. I was planning to go to Full Sail, too... but I realized that they're just a business. A very successful one. Of course you'll learn there, but you'll learn the same stuff no matter what. You don't need to shell out for it. I've saved up about $26,000 for college. Through UW, I'll be spending about $2,400 of it. That means I'll have $23,600 to spend on recording equipment. Of course, I don't expect to make it rich. I just expect to do what I love and not be broke as shit. If I went to Full Sail, I'd be in debt.
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Thirst
New member
Flo' Dolo said:
Well said, Thank you very much...
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coltranedunn
New member
lMao @ thirst
how many people actually end up paying full tuition. I know people that have went to berkley, they are all over LA too. Schools like that set these high tuitions looking to indirectly take money from the gov. Unless you are mega-rich or too lazy to do your research, you never pay full tuition amounts.
All that said, from what I've heard and seen, the Berkley kids seem to be pretty sharp. But that still wont help anyone if they dont bust their arse.
how many people actually end up paying full tuition. I know people that have went to berkley, they are all over LA too. Schools like that set these high tuitions looking to indirectly take money from the gov. Unless you are mega-rich or too lazy to do your research, you never pay full tuition amounts.
All that said, from what I've heard and seen, the Berkley kids seem to be pretty sharp. But that still wont help anyone if they dont bust their arse.