Started this one this morning...

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the remix

Sounds a lot better..


If I wanted to go the paranoid route with my observations, I would say the first verse in the beginning sounds either too trebly, or siblant or something.. Just a general not great vocal sound throughout the whole song.. (way better than what I am able to achieve though) The vocal sound is almost muddy and harsh at the same time..

Again, I am being microscopic, but it's great to have mix input on music that is as great as this.. If you changed nothing from the start, it still sounds better than anything I have done. How can I offer tips to someone who's recordings are generally better? That takes some balls on my part! :D



great sound and song.. It makes me sick to think you did this in 10 hours..

Unless your lying! :eek:
 
Nice.

Well, Been on hols for a coupla weeks, and this is the first tune I've listened to since getting back...

Very nice mixing...agree with the comments on 'upping' the voc's (the usual story...)....

Drum programming is sweet, I think the snare could do with a short reverb to make it ring out a little...Its a nice osund, but for me its a little 'too' punchy...a short reverb should smooth it a little.

The rimshot seems a little too far over to the right...

Am I being picky?..jeez if these are the only things I can critique?...must be good.

On a personal note...the song is very good, but I think you should try some effects on the vocals to make em 'fit' the experimental nature of the tune.....maybe a 'bullhorn' effect with phasing every now and then or (eek) a mild vocoder.......

Just my opinion.....

Anyway, ill shut up now and end with this.

Damn man. Nice tune.
 
I personally think the vocal sounds dull too Sam. I may re-take them or just try a bit of conservative EQ first. It's a new mic, so I thought I'd test it bare first. Thanks. Oh and as for the ten hours...8am to 6 pm (first mix)...no lunch...An absolute unwillingness to respond to the outside world too...;)

King Elvis- thanks for listening. Guitar chain: Les Paul (bridge pickup)--->Marshall JCM900--->Fender speakers--->SM57-->Delta66 soundcard---Sonar. No effects other than reverb. Oh, slight delay in the verses. Doubled parts.

Nickhall- Ya the Rimshots are a bit too far right. Forgot them on the last mix. As for vocal effects, I'm not going to add any, I want it to stay human. But I probably will re-take them. It's mostly one-offs I did to test it out. I'll re-examine the snare too. Thanks for the opinions.

No more mixes of this til I get back from my trip. Thanks for all the help fellas! C-ya.
 
SLuiCe said:
Oh and as for the ten hours...8am to 6 pm (first mix)...no lunch...An absolute unwillingness to respond to the outside world too...;)
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If you only knew how much I'm hearing you on that one..


drop me a p.m. when you get back into town.. In the meantime,

I'll look for other things I don't like about the mix! :eek:
 
man

yeah, good stuff!!!!!!!!!! im all over this!!!! right down the middle! STRIKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

groovy groovy groovy

i'll be diggin on this for a long time!!!

SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANK'S MAN

peace

rick
 
This is good stuff.

I had to listen lo-fi, 8+ MB is just too much - I may be getting DSL next week so I maybe I'll stop griping about file sizes.

Oldish style, which I like of course. Reminds me a bit of Gentle Giant, Tull, YES, Cream, even a bit of Babe Ruth. All those greats !

Can't comment much on the mix lo-fi, so I won't.

Very nice song.
 
Wow.. this is great stuff!

Man... you have a nice Staley or the guy from tool vocal going there

I cant get that rim shot to sound as good as youve got goin' on there. Im gonna have to get back to work on that :)

Maybe we can write something together sometime ;)


Nicely done A+
 
Alright, I just couldn't leave this vocal alone so I toyed with it a bit. Little more presence I hope.

JMarcomb- A nice guitar piece would be fun...

Fender- glad you liked it man. Was fun to do.

Emeric- I haven't heard Tull comparisons in a long time...not many people pick it up. Comes out even more when it's just me and an acoustic.

Thanks guys. Hope I haven't just destroyed it with the vocal adjustments I just made, but as hard as I tried to leave it alone.... My girl is gonna leave me one day for sure. But, I guess that'll be another song...

I've been going over all my stuff today and cutting all the Eqing down to size. Live and learn.

Alright, I'll leave you alone now.
 
Sluice, dude it's your birthday :D

Having just heard "Fold" (newest mix) in the monitoring room... it must be said... you rule (or SUCK :mad: can't decide :D) ...the thing is damned near perfect. Listened for lack of low end -- nope, tight. Good kick sound. Listened for instruments fighting -- nada... Vocals were a touch loud-to-soft, but that actually works here... listened for ANYTHING to bitch about... given your current set-up, there's nothing. :(



;) With real cymbals, this would absolutely be an unfair, superior track. :) You've passed the limitations of my ears; now, it's in the hands of ears of folks like mixmkr, Track Rat, and others to offer advice.

have fun in the big sky state


Chad
 
SLuiCe said:
Alright, I just couldn't leave this vocal alone so I toyed with it a bit. Little more presence I hope.
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listening to the re-re mix.. in the beginng the guitars are too compressed or something, and are now distorting in the low end.. You can hear in the beginning@ 15 sec, and later around 3:35, but its there always during that riff.. . I didn't notice it earlier because I don't think it was there.. I would have said something..

Someone else needs to hear this so I can find out if its just me, or the remix..
 
SAM....my fault. I raised the bass in the first 20 seconds or so. Mistake I guess. Thanks!
 
yeah but it's not just at the beginning.. Its also later on @ 3:30ish.. whenever that riff is being played I can hear it....
 
Hey Sluice.........
Sorry to catch this soo late.......just rolled in from Vegas. Great main guitar part. Very nice chord choices......tasty. I havent read the other posts yet, so sorry if im being redundant. I like the guit. tones, the bass tone fits in there nicely. Your vocs sound good, and I like most of the harmonies alot......i didnt care for the falsetto at 1:50, but I think you know that. Your song writing style has a very linear and mystical flavor to it. I have gotten that from all of your songs that i have heard. I like that about you alot. As usual, Im looking forward to hearing more.
.........Great stuff sluice............ G
 
damn sluice...this rocks...

that intro guitar riff is amazing...i would love to be able to write something like that.

i hear the tull too....a FEW parts of it seem a little too "evil" for my tastes..but I really like it overall....can't get enough of the riff.

As far as the production, it sounds good...the mix is good...but, it sounds kind of "muffled".

it reminds me more of what I was used to hearing in 1995 from homerecers using cheaper reel to reel equipment rather than the newfangled crisp digital sound that i am used to...

Now, I do think that sound works for this song....gives it that classic driving sound...but, at the same time...crisper is always better in my opinion.
 
Great great song SLuiCe! As usual....no surprise there. I'm gonna have to go with wes that it sounds a bit muffles. When the secondary vocal part comes in.....it's not muffled at all so it contrasts sharply with the rest of the sound. Kinda reminds me of Tull.

I really, really like this song a lot.
 
Man I dig that guitar. Definately hooked me from the beginning. Don't think I'll ever get anything to sound this good so I can't really comment beyond saying I really like it....

Just listened again and decided that I can comment. Mind you, this is after really listening hard. The drums sound pretty good but there are some things that could be different. The cross stick stuff sounds too fake to me. The sound itself is really nice but the part that gives it away is when you do two sixteenth notes at exactly the same volume. Maybe lower the attack of the first sixteenth so it plays like more of a grace note? Also, the hihat sound could be better. Bass drum is a little busy imo.

Again, I had to really listen to come up with that but I felt the need to analyze.

Oh and the vocals need something. I'm not sure what but they are not real present in some places. I gotta strain to hear what you're singing.

Cool song.
 
Still hacking at it...

Had a couple hours to play with the sound this morning. Trying to get a decent to sound take with me to some friends out in Montana. I'm uploading one last mix with a bit of subtractive EQ and quite a bit of reverb taming. Hopefully crispened things up some. I left the other version up too if necessary, but I just need one or two responses on whether it's better or worse.

Guernica- thanks for listening. I don't know where those falsettos came from. A bit quirky I concede, but I just can't seem to let the little fellas go just yet :D

Wes, Lt. Bob- thanks for the input, very helpful. Hopefully I took care of it. I believe the vocal sound issues are from the recording end...very flat response it seems, so I'll spend some time with my preamp when I get back. First trial with a new mic...thanks for helping with the test, my unsuspecting guinea pigs...(place maniacal laughter here)

erichenryus- Thanks for pointing out my drum programming blunders. I need that stuff!

Thanks guys.

Alright back to life in the outside world...
 
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