Soundcraft Ghost ideal for live use?

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Certainly opinions do differ. I did not really say anything bad about the PM2000. I do prefer the PM1000 sound, but they are pretty similar. Keep in mind that many people may prefer the PM1000 also, but a PM1000 is much harder to find than a 2000. There are lots of 2000's out there. Also bear in mind that Fletcher has a lot of tools available to do the things he needs when not using the PM2k, or even just to sweeten it. The thing about the old yamaha's is that they are a very distinct sound. About as far form neutral as you can get. Typically this means you will love it or hate it. I would make sure and try one before buying one. I am imagining your setups are very different so it may not be what you need.
 
xstatic said:
Certainly opinions do differ. I did not really say anything bad about the PM2000. I do prefer the PM1000 sound, but they are pretty similar. Keep in mind that many people may prefer the PM1000 also, but a PM1000 is much harder to find than a 2000. There are lots of 2000's out there. Also bear in mind that Fletcher has a lot of tools available to do the things he needs when not using the PM2k, or even just to sweeten it. The thing about the old yamaha's is that they are a very distinct sound. About as far form neutral as you can get. Typically this means you will love it or hate it. I would make sure and try one before buying one. I am imagining your setups are very different so it may not be what you need.
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XSTATIC,
Yeah, I hear what you're saying. Its just so hard to make a decision on items like consoles when there are so many different opinions. You'd think something as fundimental as a console there would be pretty much across the board yes or no about them.Dont get me wrong Xstatic, your not the only one that finds them so,so. But then again, many people love them. Fletcher wants 8-10 grand for one of his, but it has mods/upgrages of sorts. Average price I see is 1000-3000k.How are the mic pre's? I mean REALLY.
 
xstatic said:
Certainly opinions do differ. I did not really say anything bad about the PM2000. I do prefer the PM1000 sound, but they are pretty similar. Keep in mind that many people may prefer the PM1000 also, but a PM1000 is much harder to find than a 2000. There are lots of 2000's out there. Also bear in mind that Fletcher has a lot of tools available to do the things he needs when not using the PM2k, or even just to sweeten it. The thing about the old yamaha's is that they are a very distinct sound. About as far form neutral as you can get. Typically this means you will love it or hate it. I would make sure and try one before buying one. I am imagining your setups are very different so it may not be what you need.
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XSTATIC,
Yeah, I hear what you're saying. Its just so hard to make a decision on items like consoles when there are so many different opinions. You'd think something as fundimental as a console there would be pretty much across the board yes or no about them.Dont get me wrong Xstatic, your not the only one that finds them so,so. But then again, many people love them. Fletcher wants 8-10 grand for one of his, but it has mods/upgrages of sorts. Average price I see is 1000-3000k.How are the mic pre's? I mean REALLY.
 
8 to 10k better have some very serious mods. I have seen 24 channel versions sell for well under $1000 before. I do like the preamps in them, but they are not what I would want my system based around. Some people refer to them as the japanese Neve. Personally, I don't feel the whole Neve vibe in them, but they do have a good character to them that is pretty distinct. I have always found them to have a really nice low/mid to them. Very solid sound. What I miss is some of the high freuqency extension that they don't seem to have. The EQ is decent, but the feature set runs pretty short on a PM2000.
 
xstatic said:
8 to 10k better have some very serious mods. I have seen 24 channel versions sell for well under $1000 before. I do like the preamps in them, but they are not what I would want my system based around. Some people refer to them as the japanese Neve. Personally, I don't feel the whole Neve vibe in them, but they do have a good character to them that is pretty distinct. I have always found them to have a really nice low/mid to them. Very solid sound. What I miss is some of the high freuqency extension that they don't seem to have. The EQ is decent, but the feature set runs pretty short on a PM2000.
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Interesting! All I want a console like the pm2000 is to run back monitors mixes to studio. Second to use the preamps on occasion as I have a good amount of nice outboard racked preamps. Third, if the eq is cool ,maybe use it for some tracking and/or mixing out of the box. I have a line on one for 2500 bucks,said to be mint in a full road case that tilts the console vertical for use,really slick.The price seems a bit high but the case is Im sure half the price.
 
Like I said, I have seen some for under $1k, but they are usually found in 24+ channel configurations for between $1k and $2k. With a road case $2500 certainly does not seem out of line. Keep in mind at the age it is, even a "mint" condition one may still need some work soon. It may be due or even overdue for some recapping and standard maintenance.

As for what you are asking about using it for... my guess is there is a good chance that you will enjoy it. The eq is much nicer than something you will find on a Mackie or a ghost. It is limited in its feature set, but sounds good. The line inputs will not have as big an impact on your sound as the board will when using the mic pre's, so you may not always be "stuck" with that sound, not that its a bad thing, but just is something. On problem is going to be the amount of routing. The PM2000 is not set up for studio use so much as live. It does not have the inline structure and probably not the control room section you may be after as well as limited aux sends. It has been years since I have used a PM2k though so I may not be remembering the layout perfectly. I am also confuse on how you mentioned using the console vertically. I will just assume that this actually means that in the road case the console stands up to be moved on the caster plate, which is standard.
 
Sorry Xstatic, I meant to relate that the console is vertical while in its road cse, then rotates to horizontal for acrual use.....sorry.I has a pivot hinge on each side. Yeah, Fletcher did say his PM2000 has mods to it. It sounded rather nice and I'll bet worth the 8-10 grand in the end. All his stuff seems to be very competitively priced.The routing does not bother me with the PM2000. Im not big into complexe setups with consoles anymore. Just plane run some PM2K micpre's into 24 track along with my outboard stuf. Have an ability to have a headphone mix and a few aux sends and inserts for each channel strip for my outboard gear and I'm happy.
 
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