Sound proofing

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Hey all first time here and looks real helpfull......

I want to sound proof part of my tin and steel garage for band
rehersal.
Is this possible or am I just wasting my time and money?
 
Depends, mate - how much time, and how much money? (Enough of both, and almost anything's do-able :=) Steve
 
Steve's right - dump enough money into anything and it can be accomplished........

Just how much are you willing to spend?

Rod
 
Hello Micky. If you can provide a few details to understand your situation.
First, IF you want absolute soundproofing? That equates to BIG$
I assume the floor is concrete because it is a steel building, correct.

Since this is to be a rehearsal space, I also assume you want to keep the sound from transferring to the neighbors, is that also correct. If so, how far away are they and how is the building location affecting your neighbors.

Do you own the building or rent? That also has a bearing on $. And construction decisions.

Do you have an existing HVAC system?

Are you planning on recording the rehearsals? If so, are you also interested in room acoustical treatment, not just sound proofing?

Are there noise producing elements adjacent to the building, like highways, airports, truck terminals, etc, that you want to eliminate noise from?

Sq. footage would be nice to know also.

These, and many more concerns, will dictate sound proofing stratagies, which also translate into budgetary decisions. The more information you supply, the better people here can predict solutions.

For instance, a rehearsal room soundproofing solution for an acoustical ensemble, can probably be much cheaper than a rock band with stacks of Marshalls playing at full volume. It would be nice to build total soundproofing in the first place, but give any budgetary restraints to the process, and your best line of stratagy is knowledge. Why build isolation solutions that provide for an STC of 70, if you do not need it. UNLESS, your pockets are deep in the first place, and you want the absolute. But if that were the case, I don't think you would be asking here. Get my drift? And if it WERE the case, my first suggestion would be to FORGET the steel and tin building. Get a concrete one as MASS and isolation are the real missing issues to deal with here. There is NO mass in a tin building. I'm trying to help you understand that, why buy a Hummer, if you only need a Jeep.

Cheers
fitZ
 
Hummers ain't so smart - if they were, they'd know the WORDS... :=)
 
Hummers ain't so smart

Yea, and they are expensive too. Kind of like some of the guys I used to work with.:D

Hey guys, hope I wasn't stepping on any toes here. Just tryin to help the experts. I remember when I first posted here. It took a long time to even partially understand the concepts enough to SEE the problems, let alone solve them. So anything I can do to help pull out info from people, maybe makes YOUR help easier. But IF I am impeding the situation, just say so and I'll keep my mouth shut. I see conflicts of information happen all the time, here and elsewhere, and thats the LAST thing I want to happen.
fitZ
 
Fitz,

I for one did not see you as stepping on any toes....... it was a good post.

Rod
 
RICK FITZPATRICK said:
Yea, and they are expensive too. Kind of like some of the guys I used to work with.:D


HMMWV's are nice, I have one. The H2 is a "toy", a mere rebodied suburban with none of the things that make a HMMWV a HMMWV other than the grille.

But, both suck compared to this:

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Some red paint, a gun rack, and a dog and you're good to go :)
 
Only you would post that frederic, ya kill me!

You know, this whole soundproofing thing brings up a subject that I have wondered about long and hard. And as an offshoot of it, just this weekend, as I was surfin the net, I came across a website for one LP Swist. I don't know if you are familiar with his name. He is an acoustical designer, and really produces some very nice designs. In a moment of insane compulsion, I emailed him with a resume, as I realized the fixture work in his studio designs were fabulous. Over the course of a few days, I recieved an email from him personally, as one of his associates had brought my resume to his attention. In his email, he attached the shop drawings for some of his designs, that a manufacturing company in Chicago called DatesWeiser, had provided for the fixtures that they were presently building for him. In his email, he asked me if I could detail not only similar fixture work, but economy pre fab studios and control rooms also.
Needless to say, I told him the fixture work was no problem, but the prefab room detailing would be possible for me only if the scientific and engineering portions were done prior, but it would seem to me, that any engineering firm would also detail it from the outset.
Now, that brings up the soundproofing issue in pre-fab solution packages. As the cost of material, speciallized labor and professional studio design continues to escalate, it is something I think, and so does he, that the market is well ready for. As more and more home studios encroach into the recording market as a whole, the less large scale studios construction is likely to happen. Especially seeing how many rooms of that level of budget are built each year. For each one that is built, the market share of available production funding dwindles. And even you must agree, that at best, a profitable large scale studio is a risk at best, and there is already considerable competition in existance. So, that being said, would you guys care to comment on the subject of designing prefab room modules for the home studio market? I'm extremely curious, as this bbs. and others attest to the fact that it MAY exist. Whether or not it would be profitable is the question at hand. However, I see MANY, and Steve can
validate this, many pre fab modular home manufacturers that are already set up here along highway 5 in Oregon, that have the manufactureing capability and have already evolved to where wall, floor, ceiling assembly line problems have already been solved.
I just think the same approach could be applied to this market. Any comments? And yea, my thinking MAY be optimistic at best. Please, quelch this brainfart before it consumes any more bandwidth here or at least give me a reason to let it evaporate. Which would actually be in my best interest as I have MANY other places to use my dreaming.

Thanks.

fitZ:)
 
If it is steel like a shed. I wouldn't bother.

The steel would amost surely amplify any and all sounds assuming it's Sheet Metal.

It be best if you built another structure to suit the needs of a man producing music.

On the other hand if there is enough room inside to build another structure thenn go right ahead. From the outside it would only look like a ordinary shed.

How big is it?
 
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