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Mull
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This is my latest song. It was frustrating, but I'm satisfied. Opinions? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?
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RAMI
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I can't hear a thing. Ever thought of posting a link????
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Mull
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killthepixelnow
Do it right or dont do it
I think your snare need a little more room/reverb. Too dry for my taste. Kick should have more click (try boosting frequencies around 5kHz) to cut over the mix. Guitar and bass sounds great to me. Beware of the guitar solo, too much gain.
BTW, this is not "modern" metal, it's gothic metal.
BTW, this is not "modern" metal, it's gothic metal.
joeym
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Music's pretty good, man but....
it's mixed way too hot! I bet you've got all your channels in the red, here. It's so distorted that it hurts the ears. Remix and get your levels lower. Then compress and slap a limiter on it to make it louder.
it's mixed way too hot! I bet you've got all your channels in the red, here. It's so distorted that it hurts the ears. Remix and get your levels lower. Then compress and slap a limiter on it to make it louder.
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doulos24
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hahaha this won't even make it to the headphones. I laughed my butt off hearing it through my laptop speakers. the snare is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to loud. the synth is uber cheesey. "vocals" are funny. They seem stressed. Trying to put it in words forced trying to get a scream tone but never screaming just let me put it this way
epic fail
epic fail
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Mull
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Thanks for the feedback. I'm tinkering with the drums and levels some.
hahaha this wont even make it to the headphones I laughed my butt off hearing it through my laptop speakers snare is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to loud synth is uber cheesey "vocals" are funny stressed trying to put it in words forced trying to get a scream tone but never screaming just let me put it this way
epic fail
That was only somewhat coherent. As for the vocals, they're obviously not your style, but for what they are, they're fine. The synth is also fine for what I was doing in the song. The only epic fail here was your adolescent, punctuation-less critique. Back to 3rd grade (if you ever passed it) for you. Snare is too loud thoughI will fix it it will be quieter
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doulos24
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hahaha this won't even make it to the headphones. I laughed my butt off hearing it through my laptop speakers. The snare is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to loud. The synth is uber cheesey. "vocals" are funny. They seem stressed. Trying to put it in words forced trying to get a scream tone, but never screaming just let me put it this way epic fail.
better?
yes it's not my style I prefer talent
yes it took the songs suck level way up
better?
yes it's not my style I prefer talent
yes it took the songs suck level way up
M
Mull
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Talent? The vocals are in tune. Also, as for synth being "cheesy", that's not exactly a technical critique. It's purely subjective. Aside from the snare critique, the rest of what you typed is completely irrelevant. Also, your demeanor makes you seem like a child and also makes your opinion easily dismissed. Anyway, thanks for calling my attention to the snare little fella.hahaha this won't even make it to the headphones. I laughed my butt off hearing it through my laptop speakers. The snare is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to loud. The synth is uber cheesey. "vocals" are funny. They seem stressed. Trying to put it in words forced trying to get a scream tone, but never screaming just let me put it this way epic fail.
better?
yes it's not my style I prefer talent
yes it took the songs suck level way up
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doulos24
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this genre is hard to get right. Ok you want critique you can use ok. Your synth sounds cheesey cause it doesn't blend with the wall of sound you have going on. fade a delay on right in the back of the mix add some reverb pull it back in the mix something it doesnt fit. My thoughts in mixing if it stands out it doesnt fit. if it's not adding to the track its taking away from it. Synth guitar solos are fun and fit, weird sound fx's bouncing every where fits. Test tone style cheesey synth sticking out in my left ear doesnt fit it sounds like it's sitting on top of the rest of your mix.
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doulos24
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here you go feel free to bash my mix but listen to this track
http://www.myspace.com/onesickbend beautiful noise
when you get about mid way you will hear a wall of sound created by 66tracks of random tuned noise. In the middile it will sound like it's far back center you will hear a weird sound like a choir and a weird sound that will sound like sonar from a whale. Now imagine if that part of the track had no ambience in it how cheesey it would sound and if it wasn't back in the mix how it would sound. That is exactly how your cheesey synth sounds out of place up front flat no ambience on top of the mix and your snare is to loud as well
http://www.myspace.com/onesickbend beautiful noise
when you get about mid way you will hear a wall of sound created by 66tracks of random tuned noise. In the middile it will sound like it's far back center you will hear a weird sound like a choir and a weird sound that will sound like sonar from a whale. Now imagine if that part of the track had no ambience in it how cheesey it would sound and if it wasn't back in the mix how it would sound. That is exactly how your cheesey synth sounds out of place up front flat no ambience on top of the mix and your snare is to loud as well
tarnationsauce2
Welcome to the jungle.
Reminds me of Fear Factory. 
I think overall it has too much "mud" in the guitars and overall mix. Probably 200-400Hz range.
I would try a multi-band compressor on the guitars but just tame down some of the lows of the guitar and leave all other bands turned off. Check out the Andy Sneap C4 technique. http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/andy-sneap/215353-andys-c4-setting.html
I would alos make the guitars lessed scooped, give a bit more mids with a good broad parametric EQ like a Neve 1084 1.6K or 3.2K raised by a few dB. And filter the guitars off starting at 8k or so.
The snare isn't exactly too loud. But I do think it's a bit loud for not having the greatest sound. To have a snare that loud you want it to be a bad-ass sounding snare. That one is a bit dry and cheap sounding to me (no offence
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The kick needs a lot of work, I would trigger a good sample with some click.
I would also tame down the vocals, and highpass it a bit. Maybe add some distortion to the backing tracks in some parts.
The super quantized bass synth thing is kinda odd, but it does give the song a bit of uniqueness.
I think overall it has too much "mud" in the guitars and overall mix. Probably 200-400Hz range.
I would try a multi-band compressor on the guitars but just tame down some of the lows of the guitar and leave all other bands turned off. Check out the Andy Sneap C4 technique. http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/andy-sneap/215353-andys-c4-setting.html
I would alos make the guitars lessed scooped, give a bit more mids with a good broad parametric EQ like a Neve 1084 1.6K or 3.2K raised by a few dB. And filter the guitars off starting at 8k or so.
The snare isn't exactly too loud. But I do think it's a bit loud for not having the greatest sound. To have a snare that loud you want it to be a bad-ass sounding snare. That one is a bit dry and cheap sounding to me (no offence
)The kick needs a lot of work, I would trigger a good sample with some click.
I would also tame down the vocals, and highpass it a bit. Maybe add some distortion to the backing tracks in some parts.
The super quantized bass synth thing is kinda odd, but it does give the song a bit of uniqueness.
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Mull
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Alright...
Things are tweaked and sound much better although I'll probably make the vocals sit back a little later. Give it another listen. Thanks for not letting me be lazy.
Things are tweaked and sound much better although I'll probably make the vocals sit back a little later. Give it another listen. Thanks for not letting me be lazy.
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ilantis-studio
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Not sure if it is my speakers, but I am missing alot of attack in the low end. I hear a ton of high end in the vocals and guitars but the kick and bass don't seem to be covering/driving/attacking the bottom range. Could just be personal preference or maybe MySpace is doing something to it.
My .02.
My .02.
killthepixelnow
Do it right or dont do it
You're right, need to bring down the vocals a little more. Concerning the kick, still needs more click. Snare still sounding dry to me. BTW, I'm using near field monitors and proper headphones to check your mix.
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Mull
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Something wrong with the forum? It was telling me the server was busy from last night till just right now.
Anyway, I think I got the drums fixed and I tightened up the bass a lot. I may bring the vocals and bass down slightly, but I think I have it sounding good. Check it.
Anyway, I think I got the drums fixed and I tightened up the bass a lot. I may bring the vocals and bass down slightly, but I think I have it sounding good. Check it.
Farview
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The snare sticks out because it is the only thing in the mix that has any upper midrange. A little reverb might help, but some 200hz on the snare might give it the beef that the rest of the instruments has.
Waffleness
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I think this has potential. If things were smoothed out this would make a very good grungy heavy track. I actually like the vocals a lot. They fit the music.
If I were you, I would concentrate on getting the drums 'better'. I cant really hear them in relation to the other instruments. I would post my thought on each drum (kick, snare, etc) but I feel you need to go back and have another look at them all.
All in all, this could be very good. The guitars need less bass and more mids.
Keep at it
If I were you, I would concentrate on getting the drums 'better'. I cant really hear them in relation to the other instruments. I would post my thought on each drum (kick, snare, etc) but I feel you need to go back and have another look at them all.
All in all, this could be very good. The guitars need less bass and more mids.
Keep at it
M
Mull
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Whats the problem with the drums? I thought I'd got them sounding pretty good. I do see how the scooped guitars make it seem a bit flat. Makes it hard for the vocals to fit between them instead of sitting ontop of them. Makes the sound smaller overall, so I'll probably do some tweaking. I need a little more detail on drums though.
Waffleness
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Kick: Need to be a bit louder to match it with the bass. Slightly more thud needed.
Snare: Sounds very tinny and high pitch, almost electronic. Is there a gate on it? The hold may be set too short. Needs more verb and lower freq's.
Hats: Can hardly hear them
Ride: Needs verb and to be louder
Toms: Cant hear them
Crash: Cant distinguish it from the hats