Software Pirating is compeletly out of hand

fraserhutch said:
When the incentives to innovate disappear, so will innovation.
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Just for the record I wouldn't care if recording software DID stop devoloping. I'm fine with what's out there now. Sure they could throw in some more toys but is it anything you will really NEED?

Do you think you'll look back 10 years from now and wonder how you would have made an album without program whatever V10.5
 
mrT said:
Just for the record I wouldn't care if recording software DID stop devoloping. I'm fine with what's out there now. Sure they could throw in some more toys but is it anything you will really NEED?

Do you think you'll look back 10 years from now and wonder how you would have made an album without program whatever V10.5

At the turn of the century, much of the scientific community agreed with the following statement,

"All of the major scientific discoveries to be made have been made. All that's left is the 'fine-tuning' of them."

Shortly after, the electron was discovered.

Never ever, ever underestimate the value/worth/unforeseen prospect of scientific advancement/technology. To do so is simply ignorance beyond belief. This thought process is one of the main reasons entire systems can break down - take communism/socialism, for example. Karl Marx thought innovation kept the "working class" down - he stated technology always revolutionized the working environment, making the worker useless (and, therefore, without a job). In the early 1900's, Russia adopted this philosophy, and 100 years later their factories and entire social system was decades behind the rest of the world, and their society collapsed.

Of all the statements you've made, this one might be the most disturbing.

Perhaps this response is way too philosophical for this thread, but I'm in a philosophical mood.
 
darkecho said:
if people were honest and those who could afford to buy software did, and those who didnt just copied it, there would be no problem

LOL.
Oh yeah, hey, I decided I can't afford to buy my software anymore.......because I would rather afford to buy a new plasma TV.


And yeah, mr. t-bag, that is maybe the dumbest thing you have said yet:
Just for the record I wouldn't care if recording software DID stop devoloping.
I mean, seriously. Silly nihilist.
 
BJW said:
Never ever, ever underestimate the value/worth/unforeseen prospect of scientific advancement/technology. To do so is simply ignorance beyond belief. This thought process is one of the main reasons entire systems can break down - take communism/socialism, for example. Karl Marx thought innovation kept the "working class" down - he stated technology always revolutionized the working environment, making the worker useless (and, therefore, without a job). In the early 1900's, Russia adopted this philosophy, and 100 years later their factories and entire social system was decades behind the rest of the world, and their society collapsed.

Of all the statements you've made, this one might be the most disturbing.

Perhaps this response is way too philosophical for this thread, but I'm in a philosophical mood.

So I guess all of our friends still using Analog tape are just ignorant? My point was that I'm satisfied with the capabilities of the software today to make music. If nothing else new were created from now on I could still make current sounding music. What a bunch of whiney bitches...
 
BJW said:
At the turn of the century, much of the scientific community agreed with the following statement,

"All of the major scientific discoveries to be made have been made. All that's left is the 'fine-tuning' of them."

Shortly after, the electron was discovered..


That sounds like the urban legend surrounding the skeptical assertion attributed to U. S. Patent Office Commissioner Duell in 1899, that "Everything that can be invented has been invented." The following is an excerpt from the

History of the United States Patent Office
The Patent Office Pony
A History of the Early Patent Office
Chapter 18 -- The New Order in Charge in the Patent Office​


... Mr. Keller, still one of the examiners in 1843, noted that although the models of early inventions had been destroyed in the fire of 1836, it had been his privilege "in boyhood and early manhood, to study the models of those beautiful specimens of American ingenuity, many of which yet live in my recollection." He also wrote: "Since the invention of Oliver Evans, which has given him enviable reputation wherever flour is used, no marked invention in mills has been made, although many minor improvements have been patented and introduced in the manner of dressing mill stones." The other examiner, Charles G. Page, also made a report, not quoted here, it having little of broad historical interest.

Mr. Ellsworth wrote one sentence in the 1843 report which has been misunderstood and misquoted ever since. He wrote: "The advancement of the arts, from year to year, taxes our credulity, and seems to presage the arrival of that period when human improvement must end." The statement which is usually falsely attributed to some Commissioner or another, based upon this, is that "Everything that can be invented has been invented." No Commissioner has ever said this, and probably no Commissioner has ever thought it. In his 1988 book, Victory without War, Richard Nixon attributed the latter statement as of 1899 to Commissioner Charles H. Duell, who also never said it.
 
mrT said:
So I guess all of our friends still using Analog tape are just ignorant?

This is not at all what I'm saying. Those who use analog tape feel that it sounds better than working in a digital environment. In other words, they feel that the technology is not good enough yet to abandon an analog environment.

Not feeling technology is not up to par and thinking technology has evolved to its greatest point are two very different things, and your statement would suggest the latter idea.

I understand what you're trying to say, and I agree with certain aspects of it. For example, I feel a person should learn the tools he's got before "upgrading" to newer or more advanced tools. Too many times, somebody buys a newer program with more features just because it's newer, not because they've exhausted the features of the program they've got and need those newer features. The same goes with hardware, like pre-amps, microphones, and guitar amps.

I feel pretty certain that by making that statement, you aren't trying to say that we should just abandon the need for technological advancement in general, or, more specifically, within the world of home recording, but one could assume that's how you felt, based on what you said.

Like I said earlier, I'm in a philosophical mood, and probably am reading way too far into things, but hey, that's how I think.
 
BJW said:
Not feeling technology is not up to par and thinking technology has evolved to its greatest point are two very different things, and your statement would suggest the latter idea.

Not it's greatest point. Just a point where if everything thing had to stay as it is That I wouldn't care. Not saying you guys have to agree but everyone was acting like there was some big discovery in audio that I was helping to prevent.
 
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