So should I keep this equipment or dump it?

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Hey yall, I havent posted in a long time. But heres the deal.

I have the following synths: Roland: Fantom XR Rack, JD-990, JV-1080 fully expanded, JP-8080 - Yamaha: MOTIF Rack ES, TX-802 - Access: Virus A - Korg: Triton Rack, M1 Rack, & SR.

I am considering this: getting rid of the JD-990, JV-1080, JP-8080, TX802, Virus A, M1 Rack & Wavestation SR for the illustrius Access Virus TI. For you guys like me that have been around the synth block for about 20 yrs now, I am trying to minimize equipment, space, and get down to the bare essentials. Thats why I think I should only keep the Fantom, MOTIF ES and the Triton, dump the other crap and just get the TI and call it a day.

Would you recomend selling the items I just mentioned above? Or keeping everything and just adding the TI or keep certain items? I dont do anything professionally anymore. It's just a hobby now. Maybe I might be doing something in a church someday again. But current space is limited since I am moving soon and in the process of breaking the studio down and packing our apartment up. But I figured on the Fantom, Triton and MOTIF as "bread and butter" sounds and using the TI for synth sounds (digital and analog) it does both well IMO.

Thanks for any inuput. (SERIOUS ANSWERS PLEASE FROM KNOWLEDEGABLE PEOPLE PLEASE)
 
there are soo many variables that its a hard question to answer

the nice part about outboard gear is they usually give less headaches, less load on your computer, and no dealing with security issues. sound can also be a tad bit better on the hardware versions.. depends

if you are really good with computers, id think about dumping most of them and finding software equivalents.. managing multiple synths within the confines of your sequncer is nice. soft versions usually have more options and routing capabilities than the hardware versions. but there are also cons as i mentioned

i guess it really depends on what youre looking for and how good you are with computers.
 
Ok heres the deal. I am very good with computers. The problem is, I dont like soft synths. I know things are going that way but EVERY single time I messed with them, there are latency issues. I mean on GOOD computers. 3ghz, 2GB ram, yada yada yada. I am a TOTAL hardware person, so theres no chance of me switching to a soft synth. Thats why I am trying to determine if I should keep anything of what I mentioned or sell it all and use them oney to buy a Virus TI. For what the stuff goes on Ebay for I would have PLENTY of money to purchase a Virus TI Desktop (but rack mount it).
 
I have the following synths: Roland: Fantom XR Rack, JD-990, JV-1080 fully expanded, JP-8080 - Yamaha: MOTIF Rack ES, TX-802 - Access: Virus A - Korg: Triton Rack, M1 Rack, & SR.

For opening comment, please don't even consider to part with JD-990. Time will charge you with regret :)

Both Motif ES-R,Fantom XR-R and Triton-R are supply of covering the best of each world, and mind you, very (presently) competitive worlds. These modules (with JD-990) are here to stay. Don't part with them. You can only find different substitutes for those, but not better.

In fact, I think your described setup is already result of well balanced and well considered equipment with more then plenty creative matches for superb results.


I dont do anything professionally anymore. It's just a hobby now. Maybe I might be doing something in a church someday again. But current space is limited since I am moving soon and in the process of breaking the studio down and packing our apartment up.



I'm always happy to hear the voice of those, who share the same commitment via hardware domain. I've pretty much tried everything respectable in soft domain. I've neglected this for years. Last year took every opportunity to check every important player. I must be honest, some offer excellent means other mediocre at best. Lest I be not thought guilty of postponing the praise for later date. Yes, some soft synths are really pleasure to work with. In fact I've dedicated complete passive/silent PC just to serve as Akoustik/Ivory But, I always seem to be more productive and more friendly with hardware machines. Too old to change.

Virus TI is superb board, 1:1 on everything presently available, his converters can only be matched, but not bettered. I was playing for days those keys after purchasing my TI. Perhaps this would disappoint other users, but I hate TI's integration from the soft side. That's why I only use it as standalone bliss. Anppilot, TI is very inspirational tool to say least. But with those four modules of yours I've mentioned earlier... very complete and competent setup.

I have no idea whether you play or compose. I hope for the second prospect. Hobby or work, again it comes from the same profound source of your content. Content and pleasure spent all those years. Don't deny yourself that pleasure, life has too many restrictions as it is. You are already on good path with great transportation. Just remind yourself with that voyage and destination again. Best of Luck :)
 
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Thanks for the reply Anthony. I dont know if I can explain what I am thinking right now. I recently (thank God above) caught testicular cancer comming on and just had surgery to 'remove' the potential problem, and I'm only 33 years old - and I am on pretty darn good pain meds. So forgive me for typos or bad english/sentence structure :)

I love my studio very very much. I love every piece of equipment very much. I love the JD-990 (I forgot to mention I have the Vintage Synth xpansion board in it :) )

I love the digital sounds I get out of it. I play as well as compose, engineer, produce. I was running Cubase 3.7 YES 3.7 from 1997 in my studio. 32 track studio. $35/HR with great results. Hey, I guess I find something I like I stick with it.

I know what you mean about the feeling of regret. I have been there. I had a roland ( im a HUGE roland nut btw if u cant tell) jv-90 keyboard just to sell it and buy it back a year later :) I used this in church along with a Yamasa s-80 very nice together. The S80 for electric pianos and jv-90 for pads and strings on a double tier keyboard stand. i just did backup/fill stuff in our band. We had a dedicated Pianist playing on a original moif 88 key.

I miss playing in church, meaning a comtempory christian band type stuff.

As mentioned, I love every piece of equipment I have. I feel every GOOD studio should have a Triton kb/rack, motif and fantom. MANY MANY people have said in life and on these internet forums that "If you have a motif why would you have a fantom or triton?" And vice-versa. Well, obviously, not to be rude or pretentious but, A. maybe these folks are speaking from a $dollar$ point of not being able to afford all 3, or B. Thinking one is as good as the rest.

It is my expierience of 20+ years playing with synths/kb's that each manufacturer has something offer. example. in the 80's I FEEL PERSONALLY that yamaha had the electric piano sounds DOWN TO A SCIENCE with FM synths, but their acoustic pianos sounded like crap. Roland had pads and strings down to a science but acoustic pianos were weak, and their synth and pads were great. Korg HAD acoustic pianos DOWN BEAUTIFUL with the M1 and T series. Then the wavestation came out OH BABY. This is where korg shined. Pads, amibient, digital, etc. JUST PERFECT.

I think almost every experienced user with time in the synth business like me back in the 80's would agree with everything i just mentioned about each manufacture, heck, maybe even add to it :)

I was at a point in my career where I was blessed to make good money (depends who you ask what good money is) versus outgoing bills, so i was able to afford what i have. I knew i wanted all 3 the fantom, triton, and motif. BUT before i bought them I owned the jv-1080, JD-990, jv-90, jw-50 (used as a master controller), jv-80, mc-303, d-110, u-110, s-330, ensoniq mr-rack, tx802, fb-01, god i cant believe i remembered all of that, and i know im still missing stuff. HOWEVER: I feel what i narrowed it down to is the best of everything.

I will NEVER turn to soft synths. if I cant tweak it with my hands and i dont mean using a mouse, ill never use it.

Look at the M1 and the wavestation, like the old saying goes, all good things make a comeback. Isnt there a soft synth of the m1 and wavestation? HMM? LOL. Trust me folks, i like having the orignal stuff (OK so i cheat and use Sounddiver to edit stuff at times - so shoot me)

NOW, I do like how the fantom and motif have usb connectability and editors. I have a DAW I built just for Gigastudio that is a dedicated drum sampler. all 16 channels have a dif sample mapped to it. trust me, its nice. I have another daw#3 just for mixing down to 2 channel(ok I'm old school) I mainly use cubase as a big sequencer/mixer. Then run the output to DAW#3 to mixdown, master. Im old school - however, laugh if you want but I have fantastic resluts. its like back in the day recording to 4 ADAT'S then bouncing everything down to 2 track on something else. Cubase are my adat's :D

I like the Accessv Viru A I have. Although he jerk seller I bought it from made it out to seem as as it was a Virus C. I was sooooooooo mad, but I was just happy to get my hands on one. I kept it and fel inlove with it. I could part with it ONLY vor a Virus TI. I like the JP-8080 I have, downloaded tons of patches for it just like downloaded tons of patches for the Virus also.

Two wonderful machines. but I donw mind parting with with those 2 and also the JV-1080 with all the expansion boards I have (dance, hip-hop and techno - someone stole my house board :mad:

I think the JV-1080 for its time sounded 'thick' compared to my jv-90 and jv-80. But it has nothing on the Fantom. But the more I think of it I dont think i can part with the 1080 BECAUSE although the pianos, stirings THESE DAYS are thing, I have TONS AND TONS of patches (3000+) in a Sounddiver library with alot of synth sounds, pads, yada yada that today are still pantastic. To me the 1080 made a pretty good "synth" although not a dedicated analog/digital synth, it had alot of tweaking and programming capabilities you could get some good sounds from that are still usable by todays standards.

And the more I think, I dont want to part with the M1 rack, but I might part with the wavestation. Its a complicated little twit. I might even keep the TX802 if for nothing else, collectable memorabelia. These synths were coveted in their day and are making a comeback. I think people got tired of the 90's and early 2000 songs all sounding alike and miss the digital sounds of FM and vector synthesis. Like i said, clone soft synths of fm and vector synthesis? Hmm, HAHA ! People laughed at me for still using these instruments. I never used them alone, Always used in a mix with a triton, fantom or motif ;) They blend VERY well.

Apologize for a lengthy post, but, its a. 3 am here where i live, b. i tend to ramble on these meds :D c. just had to get that off my chest.

I guess I might only get rid of a cpl of things - if anything. And just buy ouyright a TI. Then call it quit for Years to come.

So I might just get rid of the Virus A, Wavestation, and the jp-8080

What do you think Anthony about etting rid of the JP-8080?
 
So I might just get rid of the Virus A, Wavestation, and the jp-8080

Pardons for the hugely late reply anppilot

That would be me choice from the selected gear.

What do you think Anthony about etting rid of the JP-8080?

Capable machine but never of much use in my book - but, this is really a personal call. Well, surely you've made your decision by now. I just hope JD990 stays for good in your setup :)
 
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