Small Metal Tube Amp?

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Thanks for all the suggestions im going to look into it. Anyone got an answer as to why people use massive amps when they're mic'd up anyway?

Because it looks cool, and people just gotta be cool... :cool:

This looks like an altar in a weird way, dunnit?
 

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people use 100w amps while mic'd for the same reason they use shit tons of empty 4x12 cabinets... impressiveness...... sad times we live in.

Though back in the day they actually cranked the 100w amps because they were playing festivals... can't imagine anyone needing that much volume in a club.
 
Anyone got an answer as to why people use massive amps when they're mic'd up anyway?

You know, the other piece of this is advertising, and endorsements. People have studied us humans, and they know how to sell us stuff. They even know how to sell ideas, so that the ideas they propogate are so ingrained that we believe stuff that isn't true. For instance, back in the 90s, they told us/sold us the idea that all we needed tubes in our preamps to have great tone. I bough into it... spent $1100.00 on a Digitech Studio Tube preamp and footcontroller. Then, I went and bought a Peavey Classic stereo 120 watt tube poweramp, and a stereo 2x12 cab. Of course, since I couldn't turn that 120w monster 6L6gc powered amp up passed 2, it sounded like mediocre, at best.

Though back in the day they actually cranked the 100w amps because they were playing festivals... can't imagine anyone needing that much volume in a club.

The thing I didn't realize for a long time, and someone much smarter than me would have to explain, is that in order for an amp to be half as loud as a 100w amp, it has to be 10w.Go figure....
 
I've been playing a Mesa Rectoverb combo for about 6 months now (a Mesa Nomad before that), and while it's a 50-watt 1x12, it's also definitely not bedroom material. I've got a THD Hot Plate hooked up which certainly takes the edge off, but even then the best tones are found when the poweramp is running pretty hard, which definitely doesn't happen at "bedroom" volumes.

How about a Mesa F-30? It's not as flexible as either the Rectoverb or the Nomad, but it's got a phenominal clean and an awesome gain sound, and is at least a LITTLE lower wattage...
How easily could the difference between a 30/50 watt tube amp could be heard?

I'll definitly vouch for Mesa 50 watt amps being loud as hell. My solo 50 keeps up just fine.
 
Thanks for all the suggestions im going to look into it. Anyone got an answer as to why people use massive amps when they're mic'd up anyway?

it is there if you need the power just in case you have no sound reinforcement but in most instances with most of the gigging musicans here in this forum could use a 5 watt black Heart if miked to a mixing console routed to HO power amp.:cool:
that is what I do With the Valve King'mmmmmm Goodness:D
 
How easily could the difference between a 30/50 watt tube amp could be heard?

I'll definitly vouch for Mesa 50 watt amps being loud as hell. My solo 50 keeps up just fine.

Not as much as you'd think, actually. However, the differences in design between the two really make the F-30 a little more bedroom-friendly; it's not nearly as volume sensitive as a Rectifier is, and sounds pretty good right off the bat. Sure, it gets better as it gets louder, but at low volumes the F-30 sounds much fuller and warmer than a comparably set Rectifier, which sounds thin and buzzy. It's also a lot cheaper - I've seen used F-30's in the $500 range, which is a steal considering how good the things sound.
 
i've seen both mentioned so far, but with some mis-information..

1)5150/6506 combo. as someone said, it's a 2x12 combo, killer tone, but 60W, not 100. the heads are 120.

2)krank rev jr. - 20W head, 1x12 poplar cab with eminence speaker.

both of the above are on my "to get as soon as i have some $$" list

which will probably be never...but a guy can wish, right?
 
The reason I like having a full-stack on stage, is that on tour my band's run into a lot of shitty sound systems/sound guys, and sometimes you've gotta fend for yourself personal-monitoring-wise, and sometimes stage-volume-wise. For instance, many venues, rented halls, & shitty clubs I've played don't have much in the way of PA equipment. When it comes down to it, it's easier to have the guitars un-miked to let the singer actually have some volume.

Just my 0.02: back on-topic we go!
 
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