Singing lesson for different genres...

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Hey,

Listened to aloned.

VERY NICE! on the higher notes your power is obvious. Its also great how it doesnt sound like your straining but it is nice and smooth.

ill give some others a listen when i get home.


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thanks! (i guess i should post this link over in the mp3 forum)-the title is alone-i think all of those files have d1 appended to them to denote that they are my first attempt at demo recordings for each song. i haven't gone back for any of them yet, though i should be able to improve my results significantly. i think i'm going to record the album or so of songs i find workable all in a single set, like a live set, only without an audience.
 
Thanks zero for the offer for help.
I have a book on it now and some MP3 software.
Will let you know if it's a struggle.

Chris
 
chris tondreau- re belcanto

chris, read your post on belcanto singing. I've been haveing belcanto lessons for several years now,
 
chessparov said:
Those classifications can be somewhat arbitrary, especially for pop music. Generally speaking (or singing!) it goes;

"Bass" is around E above middle C, then two octaves below that.
(less often down to low C or below)
"Baritone" around G above middle C, then 2 octaves below that.
"Tenor" around B flat above middle C, then 2 octaves below that.
(rarely up to high C or above)

The female ranges of Alto/Mezzo-Soprano/Soprano fall about an octave above the male, with more females being able to sing a high C or above than their male counterparts.

Their are further subdivisions with each voice type mainly based
on whether a voice sounds more "lyric" (melodic) or kick ass (dramatic).

Chris

There are actually two voice types that you've left out - in males there is the bass-baritone which sit between basses & baritones & tend to have a tessitura/compass averaging around a tone below baritones, they have a stronger bottom register like a bass singer, yet a more strident, bright middle register - the female equivalent (although there aren't many of these) is the mezzo-contralto which sits between the CONTRralto (let's get our terminology correct here folks, "alto" is a written part, not a voice type) and the mezzo soprano & the tone textures tend to work the same as a bass-baritone (the dark, strong, contralto-esque bottom register & the higher-sounding bright middle register). I myself am a bass-baritone with all 5 of my registers in full-working order - for an example of a famous fully-working bass-baritone with 3 octaves of full-voice modal range & then an further octave above in falsetto, check out Mike Patton of Faith No More, Mr. Bungle fame.
 
James Argo said:
Don't get it wrong, brutha... :D

I'm NOT Indian, not even been there before, not in the plan to move there, not even trying to marry Indian girl. Nor wanna sing Indian song. They are just an example here :D I just wan't to have the ability of singing higher octave smoother similiar like 'em :D I know there's hidden wisdom you guys don't mind to tell me :) And I thank you for that :)

;)
Jaymz <-- newbie singer :D

The female vocalists you tend to hear in these films (and the style of singing generally) tends to use the middle register which resonates primarily in the mouth (no chest resonance), although it also depends on the voice-type of the singer as to whether the tonal quality will be closer to the bottom register or the top register (Kate Bush's middle register is a prime example of this - it sounds like a top register "thrown forward", but it actually can go lower than the low threshold of the top register) - it has a tonal quality that makes it sound higher than it actually is, although as a guy you're not going to be able to produce said noise LOL
 
Tim Brown said:
Nope.

In Falsetto, you have no control over the dynamics.

Tim

I'm sorry I'd have to disagree with that one - it is possible to swell notes & alter dynamics in falsetto (although not to as great an extent as when using modal registers).

Vocal fry? Interesting term, never heard that one! :D

The way I was trained (& subsequently teach my own students to great results) also tells of the 5 registers (bottom, middle, top, alto mechanism & flasetto), although female voices tend to predominantly have 3 (bottom middle & top), although in some extreme cases the "falsetto equivalent" whistle register occurs.

The bottom register tends to resonate primarily (there is some overspill to other resonating centres) in the chest cavity.

The middle register resonates primarily in the mouth (using the rear palette or uvula, the dome of the mouth & the front palette - depending on the vowel or desired tonal quality).

The top register resonates primarily in the frontal & maxiliary sinuses, although overspill at the rear palette is quite usual (note that placing the resonance at the rear palette gives that "covered" sound that opera singers tend to have - but Tom Jones has it also when he sings in top)

The alto mechanism (now this is a tricky one to produce) - it is a 3/4 resonant modal register that sits between the top register & falsetto - it still has a full-voice sound but is more suited to rock (a lot of singers who use the alto mechanism have a raspy sound - this is caused by a clash in harmonics due to the resonance being placed at the rear palette but not being allowed to spread to the sinuses as in the top register but rather being "bounced" forward to produce a bright noise). It is a register I tend to avoid with students until their 3 main modal registers are stabilised (treating the voice as a whole rather than using just one part of it all the time - this can cause damage in the long-term), otherwise it can cause problems.

Falsetto - this is a "false fundamental" which is produced using only the very edges of the vocal folds - predominantly a male mechanism as male folds are longer & also the configuration of the folds and the Adam's apple faciliate this kind of voice production. Prolonged use of this mechanism can cause problems, especially if the full (modal) voice is not used - ie/ Jimmy Somerville, a famous falsettist has had 3 throat operations to remove nodules & now can only sing in his bottom register (the tone of which is also damaged).

The trick is above all, never to resonate in the throat - if you resonate in the throat this interferes with the waveform being produced by your vocal folds & can cause them to bang together, strain & eventually scarring. If singing a high note & you feel that it is resonating in the throat, try taking the resonance up & placing it in the mouth (if rock try the rear palette) or if it's a low note that feels throaty, dropping the back of the tongue (you'll find your whole larynx will drop about an inch) will direct the resonance into the chest.
 
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