simultaneous recording

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theyre deisgned to take microphones or line level inputs. Trust me, theyre mic inputs.
 
Of course a lot depends on budget.

One low-cost option is the Phonic Helix range of firewire mixers.

Mind you, to call them mixers in this scenario is misleading.

What they do give is varying numbers of mic/line connections and preamps that feed into a PC via a firewire connection, and the outputs are separated into different channels.

This enables you to direct each of your mics/instruments to a separate track in a DAW, and you can mix, add effects etc in your DAW.

Note that the mixing faders, effects etc. on the "mixer" have no effect on the output into your PC via Firewire (which passes the signal in "clean"). The gain knobs have an effect, of course.

The mixer can be used as a mixer if you want, but not for PC recording use.

The unit acts as a sound card too, and the mixed signal is passed back and can be output to monitors/headphones, etc.

It's a cheap option, but people who have used them say they work well (maybe depending on the DAW you choose). I am told they work well with Reaper, and am considering trying one.

Mind you, if you really want 8 inputs the Firepod doesn't cost much more anyway.

Note: Don't be confused by the number of inputs most manufacturers claim. Look at a picture and count the number of XLR connectors. They usually include digital connections (like midi). Also, make sure you have phantom power for your mics.
 
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Here's my opinion...

I started off using the dreaded porta01 years ago and that was the worst experience of my life!! I then went onto the Roland 1680 and I have to say... that was a pretty good unit for what it was. Now adays you can pick one real cheap. I have since moved on to software recording with 2 firepods which gives me 16 inputs. I find the firepod to be very easy to use and Cubase is awesome!

So what I am trying to say is... it really depends on how much you want to do and if you plan to keep recording. If it is just a one time thing to get some tracks down... try the all in one systems. But IMO... stay away from the analog tape untis. Bouncing tracks sucks on tape!!! If your plan is to keep recording... I would really suggest looking into one of the interfaces such as the firepod. The good thing is, since Presonus came out with the Firestudio, pods are coming up used all the time. Not that I am suggesting buying used, but it may be an option. I picked up a used pod for $300!! This will be my 3rd so I will have 24 inputs!!

As far as mixers, if you are looking for a mixer, I agree that you should look for one with direct outs. I would also suggest one that has subgroups too.
 
appleyardrules said:
apogee ensemble.

:rolleyes:

Are you going to elaborate and let the poster know everything that needs to go along with your suggestion?
 
TelePaul said:
Okay people think we should review...I think we may have all jumped the gun with our talk of mixers and soundcards!

He wants to know how to record...a mixer, I'm pretty sure, wont do that by itself! it won't commit anything, no matter how beautifully blended, to memory. I think we need to know whether it's hardware recording or software recording that's to be done.

Frankie, hardware recording is your standard 8 track recorder, popular brand sbeing Zoom, Boss, Tascam etc. They're stand alone devices with a built-in hard drive and in most cases, a built in CD writer. Depending on the model, they come with 8/12/16 channels, usually about half of which are XLR or mic inputs with built in Pre-amps. The other channels are usually for line level instruments, like midi keyboards or D.I'd guitars. All the editing is done on the device itself, and most contain some sort of built-in mixer with faders, fx-sends and EQs. You can record tracks, overdub, bounce one track down on to another for multiple layering. Once your sng is completed, you can burn it to CD. Some of the newer versions also support USB connectivity, so you can bounce tracks to your PC and back. The benefits of hardware recording are that it's pretty-much self-contained; you press record and you're good to go. You burn it down when you're done and thats one song in the bag :)

Software recording is different. It involves a computer, and a device which acts as an intermediary between your instruments and your computer. These are called audio interfaces or sound cards; bear in mind that the sound card that came with your PC is most likely designed for playing MP3s, and is not good enough to use to record. So, you get a soundcard and use it in conjunction with what is known as a sequencer; a software program that allows you to arrange and edit musical parts to an enormous degree. That'd be the main differnece between hardware and software recording; in my opinion, software recording sacrifices practicality for functionality. It does require a pretty decent PC, and an audio card to get started, but after that the possibilities are almost endless. You may have heard people talking about plug-ins which are used to shape sounds and add effects; virtual instruments and software sythesisers can offer convincing reproductions thanks to MIDI. You can also mix hardware and software by applying hardware components before your sound card; external compressors and pre amps for example.

Okay frankie, if you knew all this already, I'm sorry for wasting your time! But both methods will allow you record multiple tracks at once, and edit them seperately. If you want 8 XLR inputs, to record say, a drum kit, you can get a hardware recorder like this or you can get an audio interface with 8 channels like this.

Hope this clarifies somewhat.
TelePaul,
Just wanted to say that I really enjoyed your reply to Frankie's question.

It was polite, succinct, comprehensive, and clear.

Keep on writing.

GV in Toronto
 
gvdv said:
TelePaul,
Just wanted to say that I really enjoyed your reply to Frankie's question.

It was polite, succinct, comprehensive, and clear.

Keep on writing.

GV in Toronto

Oh, thanks mate. :)
 
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