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Okay, so I go to GC, put on the headphones, and plug-in to a J-Station amp modeler. Thought it sounded good. Better than good. I feel dirty Chad
Okay, so I go to GC, put on the headphones, and plug-in to a J-Station amp modeler. Thought it sounded good. Better than good. I feel dirty Chad
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Yeah be ashamed.
Then again, amp modeling circuits are getting better and better.
I'm quite happy with my toneworks ax1500g .. and i'm not ashamed. My music's been sucking in the guitar sound dept. but that's not my ax1500g's fault . the blame lies on my head for not being able to find the right settings... until yesterday!!! lol.
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Saturday is recording day .. saturday is recording day yeah!!! .. i can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! only a few hours to go! must sleep now.
Then again, amp modeling circuits are getting better and better.
I'm quite happy with my toneworks ax1500g .. and i'm not ashamed. My music's been sucking in the guitar sound dept. but that's not my ax1500g's fault . the blame lies on my head for not being able to find the right settings... until yesterday!!! lol.
RANT:
Saturday is recording day .. saturday is recording day yeah!!! .. i can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! only a few hours to go! must sleep now.
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tvaillan said:
Woohoo!!! (flushes all his mics down the toilet)
Ummm... that, plus I don't know jack about miking amps
At least I *think* I don't.
Today... yesterday... tomorrow... they're all recording days... but what do I do? Waste time and procrastinate right here
Chad
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Lotsa people badmouth gear they either can't afford, haven't heard, or wannabe just like the rest of the snobbish pricks so they can be "in" - The real bottom line is do you like it and can you work with it/afford it? If so, fuck 'em. Vigorously. Un-abashedly. Just fuck 'em.
With all the newest/latest/greatest crap being crammed down our throats, it's sometimes hard to remember that we're trying to record stuff that sounds good to us (and hopefully to others) - When it comes to micing ANYTHING or ANYBODY, the simplest and truest way to do it is (1) find a place in the room where the source sounds good - not all places in a room are equal. If the source sounds bad, either move it or change it til it sounds good. Well-recorded garbage is still garbage. (2) find a place in the room where you can put your head and the source sounds good/better/best (3) put a mic there that colors sound the least, or at least colors it in a good way.(The best one you have or can borrow) If you can't get a good sound that way, there's very little else that will help.
Several of the newer "modelers" have at least a few usable sounds - most of that stuff can be vastly improved on by taking the time to tweak things a little or a lot. This is true of almost every factory patch on almost every piece of gear you can buy. RTFM may be a joke, but the value you can get by doing it is NO JOKE. Even Bruce Swedien says "if it sounds good, it IS good..." Steve
With all the newest/latest/greatest crap being crammed down our throats, it's sometimes hard to remember that we're trying to record stuff that sounds good to us (and hopefully to others) - When it comes to micing ANYTHING or ANYBODY, the simplest and truest way to do it is (1) find a place in the room where the source sounds good - not all places in a room are equal. If the source sounds bad, either move it or change it til it sounds good. Well-recorded garbage is still garbage. (2) find a place in the room where you can put your head and the source sounds good/better/best (3) put a mic there that colors sound the least, or at least colors it in a good way.(The best one you have or can borrow) If you can't get a good sound that way, there's very little else that will help.
Several of the newer "modelers" have at least a few usable sounds - most of that stuff can be vastly improved on by taking the time to tweak things a little or a lot. This is true of almost every factory patch on almost every piece of gear you can buy. RTFM may be a joke, but the value you can get by doing it is NO JOKE. Even Bruce Swedien says "if it sounds good, it IS good..." Steve
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Yeah agreed. Just kind of a half-serious post... the j-station at GC is obviously set up on the "hey wow!" setting to get people to buy it. They have it preset to cranked, with the chorus and meatiest sounding patch so you'll go... "s***, what am I doing mic'ing amps?" Fiddling with the knobs & esp. lowering the level (to get away from that "louder is better" sound) shows the true value of that product. It sounds okay, but you'd imagine that the sounds from gear like this will get boring after a while. Why? Mmmm... just a guess. Maybe everyone will come upon the same presets and start sounding just like each other. People who record will be able to pick out the "rectifier" patch from the j-station just as easily as picking out the sampled drums from an Alesis SR-16.
The other side of the coin is: Isn't recording meant to capture your band's sound? For some, yes. If you're a guitarist, you'd like to get "your sound" down to tape. It's a no-brainer that this means mic'ing your amp. This means that for all of us who may use amp modelers could end up sounding like each other. It also means that if we do make a good recording with an amp modeled sound, how in the hell will we get that sound out of our live gear?
Anyway, just some rambling thoughts.
Chad
The other side of the coin is: Isn't recording meant to capture your band's sound? For some, yes. If you're a guitarist, you'd like to get "your sound" down to tape. It's a no-brainer that this means mic'ing your amp. This means that for all of us who may use amp modelers could end up sounding like each other. It also means that if we do make a good recording with an amp modeled sound, how in the hell will we get that sound out of our live gear?
Anyway, just some rambling thoughts.
Chad