Shock mounts.

[ecktronic]

I am a bit puzzled here. I have been using a decent condensor mic with a shock mount and a pop shield in a big room and have had great results for vocals. But i then tried a more up market mic. Its a neumann and i think it is a TLM type. (worth around £500 or $750 roughly) It come in this lovely wooden box but it doesnt come with a shock mount!! and im sure the shock mount i have been using wont fit the neumann.
Why would a mic that is so expensive not come with a shock mount?
I noticed that my vocal recordings with the neumann were pretty rubbish as they were quite boomy (could be becuase of vibrations in the floor) and very boxy roomy even though i was recording in a big room. Is the neumann too sensitive? does it pick up EVERYTHING in the room, so you need a perfectly treated room?
Has anyone had any problems like me with neumann mics before?

 

[darnold]

Probably the reason the Neumann didnt come with a pop screen is to keep the costs down. The Neumann shockmounts cost around $200. It just means your paying more money for the quality of the mic instead of the accessories. That was part of the big hype with the cheaper chinese mics in they came with a decent shock mount (not as good as the Neumanns) for little money.

Your probably talking about the TLM103. The low end rumble could be many things. The floor maybe but i think the floor rumble would be pretty obvious. Might need to stand on a thick rug or something. The room could cause it. I wouldnt expect it to be a major difference there compared to the other mic, but it would be different. Would just mean the Neumann picks up a little more room noise. But i dont think thats shock mount related. It could also be just the difference in frequency response with the Neumann, or the proximity effect.

Danny

 

[xstatic]

You might for the first time be hearing the sound of your preamp and the sound of any machinery and ducts in the building. If it's machinery (vibrations) then a shock mount can greatly help. If it's ductwork making the noise than it's a little trickier. You may also be finding that your preamps are noisy as well.

 

[The Green Hornet]

Yo Eck + Trons:}

You know, I really don't like shock mounts. The first one I got with a mic turned into a Chinese puzzle--that elastic band that is woven in and around got loose and that was the end of it--I tossed it and just used a regular mic stand mounting with a pop screen for vocals.

Of course, my studio room is carpeted--was that way when I moved in and I just left it carpeted and built the studio. Of course I don't do "live" bands; I do vocalists and my own stuff and specialty stuff for clients.

I've never used a Neuman so I can't compare. I have an AKG3000 and a Shure KSM32 and a few other odd/ends mics. Use the Shure for vocals mostly.

I'm sure you can get a good performance from the Neuman by "adjusting" or experimenting, if it is the floor causing the problem.

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Green Hornet

 

[Dracon]

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[The Green Hornet]

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You know, you are a pretty smart dude.

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[Fletcher]

Why would a mic that is so expensive not come with a shock mount?

First off, it's not an expensive mic. Second, unless you're near a train line, heavy trucking, or have a floor that isn't solid [as in it moves when you dance on it] a shock mount is basically only for cosmetic purposes.

So... if you really do need to isolate your microphone from coupling with the floor... here's how you do it professionally on the cheap.

Find a shop that upolsters furniture... buy some foam they use for couch cushions, like 4" [10cm] thick... then cut some small notches for the feet of your mic stand... and bada bing... you've got a shock mount. Total cost, usually under $10 USD

Best of luck with it.

 

[ssscientist]

First off, it's not an expensive mic.

Expensive is relative.

Nice idea for a punk rock shockmount, though.