Serious vocal problem!

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I cant get my vocals to flow with my song they sound choppy. It could be my voice or the way im singing or something but im not sure and ive been tryng for so long to get professional sounding vocals. I have a decent condensor mic its a Groove Tube GT55 that I picked up for 250 and other people say it works great but my vocals just come out like crap. I was wondering if you guys can listen to this sample and see what you think of the vocals and what I need to do to improve them.

Sample of vocals:


Thanks
Dave
 
are you using a pop filter? if not you should be at least 60cm away. I think its a placement thing really.
And personally i dont think it sounds too bad :)
 
I don't really know what you mean by choppy, except for the way you're singing it, in which case, leave the way you sing and don't worry about being professional, it's unique!
 
Im using a cheapo 20 dollar pop filter.

Where exactly is good vocal mic placement. I thought the mic was supposed to be pointed up towards your mouth? Is that wrong?
 
Vocals are too quiet, other than that the only thing i can hear that might be interpreted as choppy is that you have a lisp but not exactly much you can do about that!
 
Yeah a bit more compression, and maybe some de-essing.
 
It's hard to say how to improve your vocals with just a small sample. The clip sounds ok. Personally I'd be trying different mics and pre's out to find the one that fits your voice or the song. There's a good chance you'd sound better with a dynamic mic.
 
have someone else sing for you. :p

no really...I dont know what it is, but the vocals arent in your face at all,,,and very muddy.

try a dynamic.what do you have as pre/interface?
 
Well, regardless of the not-so-good-sounding clarity, the overall mix was quite bad. The vocals' level was way too low. And the guitar didnt sound that great either. it was too bassy; because of that, the vocals sounded too muddy and non-transparent. well basically, the vocals did not sit on the mix at all. try to work on it.

Do you have monitors? its about time you start looking for one..really.
 
The overall mix is not pleasing to my ears. I had to turn up my speakers to hear any vocals. Then, after I turned them up, the speakers were booming with ridiculous bass. Re-mix and re-master the song and see how it comes out. Turn the vocals up a bit, bring down the bass, definately :)
 
Hey,
my impression was the vocals are choppy because the vocals are choppy. It's not a recording or mixing thing, it's the arrangement. The whole mix sounds under water, including the vocals. In such a sparse arrangement, the vocals need to be very present. Clear it up and bring the vocals out. Don't overcompress them, the lyrics call for some bite. You're hurt and pissed off at this girl, let her know it. Don't squash the emotion. Get in her face and tell her about it loud and clear.
 
I'd say that the vocals are not the problem here. I think they sound alright. The big problem is your guitar. Your vocals are left alone since the guitar does not support them at all. The guitar just becomes this flabby sort of blanket way down at the bottom.
 
yeah,..i agree,..the vocs dont sound bad. That guitar is really bad though. Way muddy and undefined. The mix volume is way low as well. Had to turn my speakers up a ridiculous amount to hear anything.
This prolly shoulda been a "Why does my guitar sound so bad" thread instead of a vocal problem.

Take 'er easy,...
Calwood
 
lol wow sorry I didnt look earlier I think I forgot to tell you this song was made for the vocal purpose only. I just wanted to record something to sing with and I only recorded bass guitar lol thats the reason for all that bass.

Yeha I was experimenting a lot but yaeh the mix has nothing to do with anything its not really a mix I think everything is at 0 db except the vocals but yeah I know there low I didnt take the time to relaly work on the mix.

Sorry that I forgot to inform you guys. This question was more based just on the vocals not the mix.

Thanks again,

Dave
 
well now youre gonna have everyone tellin you that they go hand in hand.

what sounds good by itself doesnt necessarily sound good in the mix... and i know this first hand --

i can never get my vocals at the same quality as the instruments, but when i solo the vox track it sounds just fine.

its a frequency thing... try messin around with the frequencies of different tracks in the MIX (EQ.) if 2 things are present with the same "driving frequencies," they'll be fighting eachother for space -- leading to a "muddy" sound.

also volume has a lot to do with this also... obviously the vocals should be the center of attention, (on most songs anyway) so try turning down some of the instruments a lil bit, and turnin up the vox. Its all about experimentation.

and i know someone will reply with a better response than this but hey, i tried! im still a newbie myself, but from what ive been reading (and trying) the above seems to be vital for quality mixes.
 
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