SE Reflexion filter for voiceover recording?

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HI There -

I'm getting together a home studio for voiceover recording. All I need to do (all!!) is record single track voice to submit for demos etc etc. I'm using a Rode NT-1a condenser, VTB-1 mic preamp.

SO: my question is this: in the past I've abandoned home recording because I can never get a decent sound from any room: boxy, boomy, thin etc etc, you mention it, it's happened.:( Suddenly I hear about the SE Reflexion filter and it seems like it could be a huge help, though the price will hurt.

I know it's not a miracle product, but I wonder whether it could help me to get a more balanced, drier sound, assuming that I have a reasonably-sized room to record in?

Any thoughts appreciated. Oh, and if this would be better posted in the 'newbie' section, please let me know!:D

Thanks
James
 
it's not always the spot you record in but the acoustics of the room you listen back in that can make things sound bad.

I'd spend my money on the source of the problem, not a patch fix that in an untreated room you're not going to notice. There's plenty of cheap, quick and easy ways to treat a room acousticaly. I'd suggest you read as much as you can on that subject before throwing money that a single acoustic tile with a hole in it over the mic stand and behind the mic wil solve.

Good luck.
 
SE Reflexion filter & others like it

James,

The SE Reflexion filter is very useful. But it is not a solution for an untreated room. Beware of product advertisements because sometimes the marketing department can go too far. Always look for data from independent testing....

I'll quote from the SE website:

"The Reflexion Filter is basically a portable device for recording live sound sources with reduced room ambience... The main function is to help obtain a ‘dry’ vocal or instrument recording."

-- This is very good and correct.


But then they go too far:
"This is especially useful in studios without proper acoustic treatment,..."

I think they should be called on this one because with the line above they are taking advantage of hundreds (thousands) of people that don't know better.

I guess it's kind of like some of those voo-doo audiophile sites that sell little triangular pillows that go up in the tri-corners of the room. I forget what the say the pillows do, but it's totally ridiculous.

:D I have to tell you a story here:

I live in Indonesia. There are street vendors everywhere. There is no government stamp of purity or testing on anything they sell. If I buy something - it's MINE. forever. If it breaks, tastes bad, makes me sick... well I bought it! I should have known better!

So education is the key.. and that's why you are here along with thousands of others. Welcome.

As Thomas Jefferson said, "A people can not be free and ignorant."

Back to topic; That filter is excellent. Not that you can't do the same with some gobos but it looks great, doesn't take up too much space and it works. - for what it was designed for.

I hope this helps a lot of people. :cool:

Cheers,
John
 
hugocat said:
I know it's not a miracle product, but I wonder whether it could help me to get a more balanced, drier sound, assuming that I have a reasonably-sized room to record in?
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Forgive the one-time spam, but my company's PVB does a much better job because it's much larger and made of better materials:

RealTraps Portable Vocal Booth

However, the best solution is to treat the room if possible, as John said.

--Ethan
 
Many thanks

Many thanks for your help guys: I guess I'm just bewildered by the task of treating a room.....I've been reading online guides etc for a long time, and have just got more confused as time has gone on. The moral is, I guess, that there are no easy answers to this one.:confused:

Let the research continue!!

Thanks
James
 
If you are doing voiceovers only, any of the above mentioned product would be useful.
 
James,

Please don't be confused.. it really is quite simple.

Trap the corners where you can.

You have 12 corners in a rectangular room. Floor/wall junctions are corners as are wall/ceiling junctions.

Trapping can be as simple as one piece of OC 703 wrapped in fire-rated fabric.
Rock wool is fine too. The density to shoot for is 3lbs/ft2 or 48kg/m3.

Cheers,
John
 
jhbrandt said:
Trapping can be as simple as one piece of OC 703 wrapped in fire-rated fabric.
Rock wool is fine too. The density to shoot for is 3lbs/ft2 or 48kg/m3.
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Yep...people usually freeze because they think it's much more complicated than it really is. Just do what John said and you'll be in much better shape than you are now.

Frank
 
Ethan Winer said:
Forgive the one-time spam, but my company's PVB does a much better job because it's much larger and made of better materials: RealTraps Portable Vocal Booth However, the best solution is to treat the room if possible, as John said. --Ethan
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Put Ethan's Portable Vocal Booth behind you and put the mic in the sE Reflexion Filter in front of you. ;)

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Agent47 said:
???

:laughings:
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What's funny? You do have 12 corners. Four vertical corners, four corners where the ceiling meets the wall and four corners where the floor meets the wall. All of them are candidates for bass trapping.

Frank
 
Ok ok, I couldn't resist! :)

But what about the horizontal corners - that would make it 20! Or wouldn't you bother with those? Interesting...
 
Agent47 said:
Ok ok, I couldn't resist! :)

But what about the horizontal corners - that would make it 20! Or wouldn't you bother with those? Interesting...
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~sigh~ uhmmm you mean the imaginary ones?

Ahem.... ~sniff~ there . are . ONLY . 12 . corners . on . a . rectangle. (junior-high school geometry) :rolleyes: You're so silly. :D

-Class Dismissed.

-John
 
Agent47 said:
Ok ok, I couldn't resist! :)

But what about the horizontal corners - that would make it 20! Or wouldn't you bother with those? Interesting...
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Uh...no. :cool:

There are twelve corners, smart guy. I even enumerated them for you in my post. :confused:

Frank
 
Uh, no...

...I'm including the actual corner corners too.

Oh, don't worry... :)

:laughings:
 
May I throw some light on this misunderstanding? I didn't get it at first but I'm no "native speaker" so please forgive me ;)

Where John is talking about the corners or "edges" where two adjacent walls meet (think V), Agent47 adds the 8 corners where 3 walls intersect for good measure (think Y).

Come on, lighten up everybody :)
Tim
 
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