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deepwater
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Does anyone have any experiance with SE Electronic mics? I think they used to make mics for Studio Projects.
cominginsecond
Decentralized Media Mogul
Nope.
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deepwater
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They look identical. I wonder what they sound like
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Brent Casey
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deepwater said:
Their sound is varying and everchanging. Same goes for all of the brands that are imported from Shanghai. The reason for this is the fact that the diaphragms on all of those "various models" is not glued to the clamping ring before being installed on the capsule assembly. The sound and polar characteristics of those mics will continue to change markedly over time as the diaphragm loses tension - unevenly.
Brent Casey
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alanhyatt
PMI Audio Group
deepwater said:
SE has never made anything for us, but they do make for many other brands. We choose not to use them for many reasons. They have always courted us and offered really low prices, but cheap breeds cheap.
As Brent said, the do not offer a level of finished quality and detail that is important the products finished sound. In fact, their capsules sound diminish after time as the mylar is always moving from not being glued. They may be liked by many out there, but we will not use them to build for us.
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ozraves
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i've tried one se mic. it was a small condenser. it didn't endear itself to me at all.
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c9-2001
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i had a se5000.. it was a decent mic.. sounded cleaner than our old akg solid tube.. but it couldn't hang with the tlm103 or tlm193...
se mics are made by feilo china...http://www.feilo-china.com/
i was told the Z series are good mics but the z5600 is close to $700.. is it worth it? i doubt it.. but when i sold my se5000 i got 355 plus shipping for it
se mics are made by feilo china...http://www.feilo-china.com/
i was told the Z series are good mics but the z5600 is close to $700.. is it worth it? i doubt it.. but when i sold my se5000 i got 355 plus shipping for it
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DJL
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I have a SE Electronics 3500 and it's ok, we use it mostly as an extra mic at the radio station.
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Shaky Tee
Between being and nothing
I was sold an SE1000 when I was staying in Salinas. Of course, in the music store, it sounded great. Sounded like crap when I got it home. It didn't last too long, either.
I dumped as soon as I got my SP B1. My recording life is SOOOOOOOOOO sweet now!
I dumped as soon as I got my SP B1. My recording life is SOOOOOOOOOO sweet now!
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Flatpicker
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Is this where Marshall's are made? I can't remember...Brent Casey said:
alanhyatt
PMI Audio Group
Flatpicker said:
Well yes and no. Feilo made Marshall for a very long time, but then Marshall kind of stole a bunch of people from Feilo and put them in a building and kind of have their own manufacturing now, but they took all the Feilo guys....
Again, it comes down to what you like....
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Brent Casey
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Yes.
Brent Casey
Brent Casey
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cominginsecond
Decentralized Media Mogul
Brent -
Are the diaphragms on the MXL mics glued, like the SP mics are?
Are the diaphragms on the MXL mics glued, like the SP mics are?
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That was going to be my next question, but you beat me to it.cominginsecond said:
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DJL
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cominginsecond said:
Is it good or bad to have the diaphragms glued on a mic?
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Brent Casey
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cominginsecond: MXL2003, V93, V77 are glued.
Flatpicker: cominginsecond beat you to the question, so actually you came in third - or - cominginsecond is now cominginfirst and you must assume the cominginsecond identity.
DJL: It's good.
The practice of not gluing the diaphragms to the clamping ring is unique to the capsules coming from this geography as far as I know. Not only is it 'good' to glue the diaphragm to the clamping ring - it's a necessary step in order to insure that the membrane material remains evenly under tension over time. The glue yields a 100% edge bond as opposed to the diaphragm being sandwiched between two surfaces which are held together by screws. The change in frequency response, sensitivity and polar characteristics will be determined by the change in tension of the diaphragm over time. These factors are greatly increased when no bonding agent is employed in assembly. Factors such as change in temperature and barometric pressure will have a profound influence on the unglued diaphragm tension.
Brent Casey
Studio Police Thought Projects
877-563-6335
Flatpicker: cominginsecond beat you to the question, so actually you came in third - or - cominginsecond is now cominginfirst and you must assume the cominginsecond identity.
DJL: It's good.
The practice of not gluing the diaphragms to the clamping ring is unique to the capsules coming from this geography as far as I know. Not only is it 'good' to glue the diaphragm to the clamping ring - it's a necessary step in order to insure that the membrane material remains evenly under tension over time. The glue yields a 100% edge bond as opposed to the diaphragm being sandwiched between two surfaces which are held together by screws. The change in frequency response, sensitivity and polar characteristics will be determined by the change in tension of the diaphragm over time. These factors are greatly increased when no bonding agent is employed in assembly. Factors such as change in temperature and barometric pressure will have a profound influence on the unglued diaphragm tension.
Brent Casey
Studio Police Thought Projects
877-563-6335
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Flatpicker
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Something like that...Brent Casey said:
Thanks for the info.
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DJL
Self Banned
Brent Casey said:
Hey Brent thanks for taking the time to answer my question. Man, I love learning stuff like this. So tell me, is there a way I can tell which mics have (and have not) been glued without having to open them up?
cominginsecond
Decentralized Media Mogul
Do you happen to know if the Rode capsules are glued?
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Flatpicker
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Brent/Alan,
You know guys, this glue thing is a valid selling point. Why don’t you put info like this on your web site and in your advertisements. As long and hard as I’ve researched the imported mic industry, I never knew this, and it’s a good fact to know.
Got any more secrets you can share with us?
You know guys, this glue thing is a valid selling point. Why don’t you put info like this on your web site and in your advertisements. As long and hard as I’ve researched the imported mic industry, I never knew this, and it’s a good fact to know.
Got any more secrets you can share with us?