SCOTTISH rock band. SERATONE

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Mixing and Mastering.
Listen to this track please anyone. It is one of our more mellow songs with a full energy filled ending. Any feedback is welcome good or bad. Just be truthfull. Let us know of your opinions on recording , mixing, and musicianship.
I am curently recording our album at the moment and will put some more heavy songs on the net for enjoyment in a wee while. och aye.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/seratonescotlandmusic.htm
 
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If the hi-fi doesnt work try the lo-fi. The lo-fi doesnt do the recording any justice though. To hear it properly try and get hi-fi to work. cool
 
Hi there:

Cons: The kick is way loud, and muddy. It sounds kinda' like somebody hitting a plastic milk jug with a turkey leg. The entire kit needs some compression on it in my opinion.

The guitars sound like they're just plugged into an input on a sound card...too sterile.

Pros: Vocal was pretty excellent, and the tune was above average.

Thanks for posting.
 
Am I the first..well ok then.
The guitar on the verses need more meat. (and the volume). good part..just bring em up to almost where the vocal is...speaking of which...I heard a couple of peak probs.. Going into the hook the second time...1st scream, that's where I first noticed it. The drums...sheesh man..too many highs on the cymbals...mic is too close to the cymbals as well...the snare drum sounds like it's in the next room..unacceptable man...Get a mic hot on that snare and kick!! I need more bottom man. Where's that bass at? The distorted guitars sound ok. The songwriting is very blase'. It does nothing for me..you tried some vers, hook, verse, hook..release type writing, but the melody..chord changes, and structure are just not strong yet...keep on truckin man.
 
I love the vocals! Sounds like someone's a pretty talented vocalist! The drums make the recording sound very "live" to me, if that makes sense. I agree that the cleaner guitar at the beginning sounds pretty bad, but that the distorted guitar later on is pretty good.
 
yeah, i liked the tune...sounds kind of like deftones

the hi-hats & cymbals are too loud & present

kick & snare too muffled

good singer

the clean guitar in the verse needs to be beefed up

the distorted guitar is real thin

is there a bass in here? If so, I can't really hear it

this song could sound a lot better if you worked on the mix
 
The drums i thought were good, a live feel yes. It was recorded live!
The guitars were recorded using PEAVEY amps!! so maybe thats why they sound quite thin and bleak?
I didnt mix the track and if i had the bass would stick out alot more.
Cheers for praising the singer. He is a really good singer, but this song doesnt totally do him justice, he can sing better. It was recorded live and we only had time to get two takes.
This song is more to do with the overall sound with the vocals being the main focal point, so i dont think the chord progression matters for a tune of this sort.
I am curently recording our album in the studio, so i will post a few more songs in while, that will be ALOT heavier. guaranteed.
 
ANY tips on a better kick sound that is less muddy and more punchy?
Any help would be greatelly apreciated. Cheers
 
start with compression to clean up your kicks, and make sure you're recording them properly in the first place

I would disagree that the guitar progression doesn't matter for this type of music...I would say it's very important...I think most people that listen to this kind of music are into the guitar sound, and want to hear it...
 
Overall, I like the song. The recording sounds like a live demo, which I take it, is pretty much what it is. I think you have a good scratch track to work with. Did you do this on a setup where you can start redoing the parts over this framework? Maybe then you can work on getting a little more balanced drum sound.

What was your recording setup for this?
 
Yeah we were all in seperate rooms pretty much i think if i can remember corectly!
We are going to record the song again and some of our other songs. If that song was tighter and the levels were better do you think it could be worth taking to a mastering suite to get it polished? The guitars would sound better as they are maybe a bit thin. I will use a better amp and maybe layer a few guitars to give a fuller sound.
 
Man, that's a tough question! I guess that's one thing we have in common here is that we are trying to learn how to make recordings that are at least "good enough" and maybe even great. Unfortunately, that's so subjective. I'm sure that for me, that as I learn more and more I'll like earlier stuff I did less and less.

Kinda frustrating when you think about it!

PS Thanks for the feedback on my song!
 
no problem.
Yeah, it is a hard game learning to get decent recordings. Lots and lots of practice is the best medicine probably for an amateur like me. I dinny have a studio of my own though so am limited in the time i get in the studio. Ill just hope i win the lottery and i can buy the best studio eh!

Cheers.
 
You don't need to win the lotto to do a better job than that.

Having said that, it sounds better than my first recordings.

You can go along way further good mic placement, and some more eq and compression knowledge. The drum tracking here especially could use more work.

Good heartfelt vox and nice tune though.
 
seratone

hi peeps, just thought id take a look on da net to see if seratone had a website yet ?!?! results came bk with this but i reckon you should get a personal space. well done at the emergenza gig btw all you rocked even tho the crowed sucked ass, i was there wit ma m8 and cousins lee n dale and from hearing the band in a garage 2 years ago and now in a live concert i can see alot has changed and improved ! good luck for the future guys.
 
Cheers Tam, this is one of the guitarists from Serotone. yeah the crowd were a bit shity, but I had a great time playing so fek it eh.
Ta for coming by the way.
Spread da word.
(ps. the band is called Serotone. Been a few mixups with the spelling and i canny change the spelling on Soundclick ha my bad)

Woah this is an old post! This must be like my first thread or something!
The tune at hand "Objection" wasnt recorded by me, but anyway in the time of about a year since posting this thread I have learnt soooo much about recording. so if anyone has any comments on my recordings on the link below then feel free to praise/diss.
Cheers.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/seratonescotlandmusic.htm
 
well for starters I think this crowd has been a bit to harsh on you. Yes the mix was a bit thin, but as for bass drum and snare, I think it may be appropriate for this band. (we shouldn't guess if that's what style you want) Anyone remember Korn's awful sound? But if you here them, you know it's Korn. They produce that same sound always, and on purpose, because it is unique to them. (bass guitar slappy and muddy and bass drum almost non existant)
So bringing me back to this piece, I'd say, well done, however as for my personal taste here is what I would do different.

I think the guitar needs to sound "closer" and more "in your face". If that's not possible seeing as how you already recorded it, try "widening" the sound of the guitar in certain powerful spots like choruses. You can double up the track, and pan the second track hard left or hard right. Then take that panned track and ever so slightly tap it so it moves a bit off center. (just to remove any phase problems and create a chorus sound and/or stereo gap.) Only activate that second track during the choruses, and it should jump out at you more. (but don't over do the volume on the second track, it's merely supposed to add texture)
As for the bass drum, I actually think it was unique, however I wanted to hear it more. I don't think it was "wrong", I just think for my personal taste I like much more punch. Try using 2 mics, 1 up close to the beeter and the other all the way back towards the hole of the bass drum. Point that microphone directly down. Just by moving the two mics and changine volumes, you get a wide range of unique sounds. (especially if you reverse your typical thinking by equing the "beeter mic" to remove the punch sound and then eq the second mic so that you eccentuate the punch sound.) I don't know about anybody else, but experimenting with two mics like this doesn't really ever fail.
As for the snare, once again I like it tighter and closer sounding, however it didn't sound unappropriate.

I liked the song. Good job overall. (don't let all these other people TELL you what is right and wrong.)
 
Hey no matter what everyone else says, I like it.

I only see problems in guitar and bass, but they are the same as most everyone else has said. Drums sound fine to me, everyone needs to relax a bit and actually listen to the recording like music not like an other piece of meat for them to bark at.

Good song
 
Cheers all for the big ups on the song. I do like the song, but i dont really like the mix that much. Mostly because of the levels rather than the actual sound of each instrument. This recording has a different sound than the rest of the songs that will be on Serotones debut album.
There aint anything i can do to change the mix as the session has been deleted. It was recorded by a music student while i was in the year below.
Ta all. :D
 
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