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topolino
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DJ DiGiKiLL
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Id like that "cloneboy studio" guy to try arguing his case to DJ Premier!!!!
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topolino
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jinx001
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Clone Boy Is Just That...a Boy!!!!
ok i've heard enough from this guy......i play piano, violin, and guitar.....i create samples, dont charge but give them away. i can alway make more music- it's my god given ability. i like to kno dat i have a little piece in a song somewhere in india or somebody is bumpin to a drumloop i created cuz i was bored. its the "artist" like u, fishin for a hit....u dont want nobody to take your shit and improve upon it...someone who's spiritually touched by his or her music...and to be perfectly honest when i started i was just like dis guy....i was young as hell and i thought every song i did was going to be the last one i ever wrote, every note the last note i was gonna play. i thought my music was MINE....but how can i say i own a word or stake claim to a note. what about the person who taught me to play would that mean they owe them cuz i didnt know the note before i was taught.....in short this guy is afraid of the competition...I THINK MIGHT HAVE WET HIS PANTS ALREADY!!!
GROW UP DUN, FALL IN LOVE WITH THE MUSIC FIRST- THE MONEY WILL COME.
what if the guy who invented whatever instrument(s) u may play, decide he wasnt gonna share cuz it was his invention....where would that leave u....exactly, u wouldnt play...u couldnt play. my personal option is that ur not a musician at all ur just a capitalist tryin to make an easy dollar... good luck tho
remeber this: that money has to stay here when u die...nobody's gonna remeber your dollarbills either... BUT u can leave a mark on the world with your music... i doubt that u can overstand exactly what i'm tellin u but it still had to be said....i would never post something that i wouldnt hope to be helpful to somebody. this is not a malicous attempt to talk crap by any means
Cloneboy Studio said:
ok i've heard enough from this guy......i play piano, violin, and guitar.....i create samples, dont charge but give them away. i can alway make more music- it's my god given ability. i like to kno dat i have a little piece in a song somewhere in india or somebody is bumpin to a drumloop i created cuz i was bored. its the "artist" like u, fishin for a hit....u dont want nobody to take your shit and improve upon it...someone who's spiritually touched by his or her music...and to be perfectly honest when i started i was just like dis guy....i was young as hell and i thought every song i did was going to be the last one i ever wrote, every note the last note i was gonna play. i thought my music was MINE....but how can i say i own a word or stake claim to a note. what about the person who taught me to play would that mean they owe them cuz i didnt know the note before i was taught.....in short this guy is afraid of the competition...I THINK MIGHT HAVE WET HIS PANTS ALREADY!!!
GROW UP DUN, FALL IN LOVE WITH THE MUSIC FIRST- THE MONEY WILL COME.
what if the guy who invented whatever instrument(s) u may play, decide he wasnt gonna share cuz it was his invention....where would that leave u....exactly, u wouldnt play...u couldnt play. my personal option is that ur not a musician at all ur just a capitalist tryin to make an easy dollar... good luck tho
remeber this: that money has to stay here when u die...nobody's gonna remeber your dollarbills either... BUT u can leave a mark on the world with your music... i doubt that u can overstand exactly what i'm tellin u but it still had to be said....i would never post something that i wouldnt hope to be helpful to somebody. this is not a malicous attempt to talk crap by any means
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SPINSTERWUN
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I try not to get in the middle of certain "discussions" inside of threads. So please excuse my transgression.
I think that people should make music (regardless if it is sampled or original). It really doesn't matter. Just make good music.
If you sample a beat and it gets picked up by a major label, clear the sample with the owner of the publishing (it's that simple
). [I'm sure that the sample clearance would be cheaper if you cleared the sample before you got signed to a major label. But you all get my drift].
Once again, it doesn't matter if you create the music by playing it yourself, or if you create the music by using samples. Just make sure you make music.
Peace....
spin------[my 7XL is not yet invented]
I think that people should make music (regardless if it is sampled or original). It really doesn't matter. Just make good music.
If you sample a beat and it gets picked up by a major label, clear the sample with the owner of the publishing (it's that simple
). [I'm sure that the sample clearance would be cheaper if you cleared the sample before you got signed to a major label. But you all get my drift].Once again, it doesn't matter if you create the music by playing it yourself, or if you create the music by using samples. Just make sure you make music.
Peace....
spin------[my 7XL is not yet invented]
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pkmusic
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Sampling can be very challenging. It is not easy. i have done it and it usually becomes more popular than the stuff i make from scratch. Sampling to me takes a lot longer to put together than my original stuff. But because it is harder does it make sampling more artistic than my original material?
My opinion is:
Originality = Art
Sampling = Craft
Art will always be original, it comes from within. Craftsmanship is putting parts together. Is one better than the other? It depends
Again this is my thought, I know not necesarily anyone elses.
My opinion is:
Originality = Art
Sampling = Craft
Art will always be original, it comes from within. Craftsmanship is putting parts together. Is one better than the other? It depends
Again this is my thought, I know not necesarily anyone elses.
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cwill4bmore
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pkmusic said:
WELL SAID ....................
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teknicz12
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This discussion has been argued for years and everyone will never agree on this subject. My advice to hiphop and other loop based music producers is dont worry about. If you sample keep track of where you sampled from. Anyone that says that sampling for production is stealing is ignorant. When you actually get to the point where it matters, this is when you get all samples cleared. If the owner of the sample doesnt want you to use it or they are asking to much money, so be it. that track doesnt get used. If you come to an agreement then it isnt stealing. This is crap that comes later.
Sample as much stuff as you can, be creative with what you use, play it everywhere. When you get a following and start selling a few records start worrying about sample clearing. Also dont be whack and sample 16bars of a popular song and add some new drums, thats just weak ;] Sampling can be very creative especially when you sample all the way down to tones and such.
Also a side note, its funny that the people that scream the loudest that sampling is stealing, have no problem downloading tons of mp3's and burning cds.
Hypocrisy to cover Mediocrity
Just my 2cents
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Sample as much stuff as you can, be creative with what you use, play it everywhere. When you get a following and start selling a few records start worrying about sample clearing. Also dont be whack and sample 16bars of a popular song and add some new drums, thats just weak ;] Sampling can be very creative especially when you sample all the way down to tones and such.
Also a side note, its funny that the people that scream the loudest that sampling is stealing, have no problem downloading tons of mp3's and burning cds.
Hypocrisy to cover Mediocrity
Just my 2cents
-=TEK=-
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pympwell
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stipping vocals
nope, you cant remove vocals during mastering but u can TRY one of the vocal elimination programs/boxes [i think one is at www.analogx.com to get the vocals off before you sample it. give it a shot. p-well.
www.neohiphopclassics.com
bassout said:
nope, you cant remove vocals during mastering but u can TRY one of the vocal elimination programs/boxes [i think one is at www.analogx.com to get the vocals off before you sample it. give it a shot. p-well.
www.neohiphopclassics.com
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GamezBond
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pkmusic said:
as you guys would say, "nigga please"
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L'espion Noir
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Keep it coming
this is quite interesting
this is quite interesting
SPINSTERWUN
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GamezBond said:
GamezBond. I have received numerous emails about this remark in your post, as well as the statement in this post
https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=1367224#post1367224.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hector_Osbert
Does anyone have a link to where I can find a decent dongle crack for SX 2?
"you must be black"
GamezBond, (and anyone else that views and participates in and on this BBS)…
It has no relevance if you are: male or female, black or white, (or any color in between, for that matter), from the United States or the United Kingdom (and any country on this planet.), you should contemplate thoroughly and introspectively before insinuating, implying, inferring, and/or proffering statements that can deemed as racist.
I fully comprehend and encompass the actuality that everyone is entitled to exercise their First Amendment Rights of Free Speech.
However, it is not mandated by law that HR.COM has to retain or extend the right for ANY individual to be a member of this Bulletin Board Service.
So….. I respectively request that we all use common courtesy and common sense when making statements in these posts, here at Home Recording.com.
If these desires are not followed then your posts will be removed and you will be banned from this site permanently.
Or ………as US “nigga’s” like to say….”You’ll be kicked of this MUTHA’ FUCKA’ FO’ EHVA’!!!!!!”
(Now do you “see” where-I’m-coming-from????????. It is ALL about thinking before you speak or type).
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pkmusic
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GamezBond said:
Do you mean us Puerto Ricans?
What are you doing in this section of the forum if you don't even like Hip-Hop?
http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=148490
You should be careful before people start thinking you are racist.
I love music, all styles!!! It just happens I did not get into liking hip hop unitl I was around 13 yrs old. It was not something I was raised with. It was a choice I made. I wasn't raised in the ghetto and I don't think anyone has to be raised in the ghetto to work with hip-hop. A true musician can apreciate the variations of musc genres and its cultural & historical background whethere it is something that you may not like as much. There are genres that I paticularly am not thrilled by but I can take something from it and make it to my own taste. I don't like Tejano music much but I can take the drums and mixed it up with some hip hop to it.
GamezBond,
It seems you come here to make trouble rather than just focusing on helping others. Music is an expression of the heart!!
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leonardjamaar
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please pk, don't try to reason with this cat.
he's obviously on some sort of amphetamine that has him thinking he can write whatever he pleases.
i'll be glad when he's gone.
I vote that you don't get second chances for derrogatory ---- talking.
furthermore, i think that if everyone blackballed that guy awhile back for copying some chick's web pics and calling her his new artist (can't remember his name)
we all should be up in arms about this!
but maybe i'm trippin...
he's obviously on some sort of amphetamine that has him thinking he can write whatever he pleases.
i'll be glad when he's gone.
I vote that you don't get second chances for derrogatory ---- talking.
furthermore, i think that if everyone blackballed that guy awhile back for copying some chick's web pics and calling her his new artist (can't remember his name)
we all should be up in arms about this!
but maybe i'm trippin...
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GamezBond
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what makes you think im not black myself 
SPINSTERWUN
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GamezBond said:what makes you think im not black myself
Because of the statement: as you guys would say, "nigga please".
Your statement is referring to either "you hip-hop people", "you black people", "you urban people" etcetera.
That is why I stated in my last post for ALL of us to think before we speak or type.
It will prevent an enormous amount of confusion, animosity, and "gray area".
SPINSTERWUN
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NONETHELESS...... YOU NEED TO STOP MAKING REMARKS THAT CAN BE DEEMED AS RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!
NO... IT DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU ARE BLACK!
IF YOU DO NOT STOP AT ONCE, YOU WILL BE BANNED FROM THIS SITE!
AM I MAKING MY INTENTIONS CLEAR TO YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SPIN THE MODERATOR
NO... IT DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU ARE BLACK!
IF YOU DO NOT STOP AT ONCE, YOU WILL BE BANNED FROM THIS SITE!
AM I MAKING MY INTENTIONS CLEAR TO YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SPIN THE MODERATOR
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leonardjamaar
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tell 'em why you mad, son!
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fastpants
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Cloneboy Studio said:
I know this is a dead thread but just wanted to drop my 2cents
When you sample you can use the preconcieved notions the listener has (and emotions) attatched to that particular song or riff/sample....
It's a technique often used in art, and yes...music is art although i see you'd probably not be so inclined to think it so due to your narrow paramaters and world view.
Good art plays with the viewer/listerner's emotions and senses...be them pleasant or not
also,
those who sample also often lean towards the more technical aspects of studio work....the origin of the origional sound has no gravity because it's about to be tweaked and manipulated beyond recognition
Analogy:
It's like saying the seamstress who uses cloth he/she has not spun himself to make clothing is less an artist than the person who spun the cloth.
That's the last time I defend sampling to my more conservative grey brain matter
ethos
Swag Type Heavy
you dont use the sample in the same light.
you use it to express your feeling.
ive used samples from "sad" songs to make "mad songs".
gamezbond and clone can sit in here and argue the semantics of sampling,
while im out making music with well chosen samples. makes no difference to me.
you use it to express your feeling.
ive used samples from "sad" songs to make "mad songs".
gamezbond and clone can sit in here and argue the semantics of sampling,
while im out making music with well chosen samples. makes no difference to me.