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geet73
OMG!
How are these? They're so cheap on Ebay that I'm tempted to buy them.
Drummer4Life05
Say Something Smart!
Go for it!
I don't own any myself, but I plan to sometime soon. Anything I've heard about them were good, so I don't see why not!
I don't own any myself, but I plan to sometime soon. Anything I've heard about them were good, so I don't see why not!
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4-Man Takedown
New member
I bought one a while back when they were claiming they were the greatest cymbals, it sounded like crud. Now they claim that the model I bought was never that good and that the new models are the greatest.
I swear for years they also claim to have sound samples soon on their webpage, but it never happened. I don't understand why this is so difficult.
I have also heard a lot of good things about them, but just make sure you try out the new models. I would only try the Mist series, stay away from SS, SH, or stuff like that.
I personally will stay away, sabian still makes great cymbals for decently cheap.
I swear for years they also claim to have sound samples soon on their webpage, but it never happened. I don't understand why this is so difficult.
I have also heard a lot of good things about them, but just make sure you try out the new models. I would only try the Mist series, stay away from SS, SH, or stuff like that.
I personally will stay away, sabian still makes great cymbals for decently cheap.
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Whyte Ice
The Next Vanilla Ice
I bought one of these (ride) and I wouldn't say they are horrible. They are okay for the price but you'd definitely be pleased with something else.
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geet73
OMG!
4-man.. I do own professional cymbals..
I'm just looking for a cheap alternative. Heh.
I'm just looking for a cheap alternative. Heh.
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cyclone2005
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Saluda Mist Cymbals
The Mist series is excellent... we stock them and we use them... mist series is hand crafted, hand hammered, hand finished b20 bronze. a very sweet recording cymbal that we can customize in any finish you like, and match to your playing style.. heavy, light, dark, rock, jazz, fat groove, etc. http://www.cyclonepercussion.com
The Mist series is excellent... we stock them and we use them... mist series is hand crafted, hand hammered, hand finished b20 bronze. a very sweet recording cymbal that we can customize in any finish you like, and match to your playing style.. heavy, light, dark, rock, jazz, fat groove, etc. http://www.cyclonepercussion.com
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eraos
Local Spiderman
I have two saluda splashes. They're cheap, yes, but they don't compare to my Sabian AA splash, even if it has a crack in it.
The metal is pretty hard and so the sound is a little tinny.
But that's only the extent of my knowledge on saluda.
4-man, they did have a clip at one time. A solo using Saluda cymbals by someone named Shawn Beamer, if I remember correctly. I have it on my computer somewhere, I believe.
The metal is pretty hard and so the sound is a little tinny.
But that's only the extent of my knowledge on saluda.
4-man, they did have a clip at one time. A solo using Saluda cymbals by someone named Shawn Beamer, if I remember correctly. I have it on my computer somewhere, I believe.
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cyclone2005
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Yareek
New member
I recently made the switch from Zildjian's to Saludas, and I'm more than impressed. Their customer service is WAY WAY WAY beyond what you need or expect (I've personally exchanged about 200 e-mails with the company, and they respond within a few hours, even on nights and weekends). All the cymbals I've received are much more musical than the Zildjian's I was playing before, although I haven't received my ride and hihats yet. The crashes are phenomenal and the china is really quick and trashy. And loud.
What I would do is e-mail Jamie at ufsports(at)hotmail(dot)com. Tell him exactly what kind of sound you are looking for and he will either find or make a cymbal to suit you. If it's not what you're looking for, he'll exchange it for something else until you're happy. I've even seen him exchange broken cymbals before, and he will give you a good amount of money for your current cymbals if you have any you aren't using (I got about $125 for a Zildjian Z crash and a CRACKED A crash).
Oh, and tell him Jarick sent you
Here's some sound clips of the 18" Mist Brilliant Medium crash, 20" Mist Brilliant Medium crash/ride, and 20" Voodoo Brilliant china. The other cymbals are a pair of 14" Sabian AA Regular hats and a 20" Sabian AA Heavy ride.
http://www.myspace.com/sleepsinashes
What I would do is e-mail Jamie at ufsports(at)hotmail(dot)com. Tell him exactly what kind of sound you are looking for and he will either find or make a cymbal to suit you. If it's not what you're looking for, he'll exchange it for something else until you're happy. I've even seen him exchange broken cymbals before, and he will give you a good amount of money for your current cymbals if you have any you aren't using (I got about $125 for a Zildjian Z crash and a CRACKED A crash).
Oh, and tell him Jarick sent you
Here's some sound clips of the 18" Mist Brilliant Medium crash, 20" Mist Brilliant Medium crash/ride, and 20" Voodoo Brilliant china. The other cymbals are a pair of 14" Sabian AA Regular hats and a 20" Sabian AA Heavy ride.
http://www.myspace.com/sleepsinashes
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Yareek
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By the way, feel free to e-mail Jamie before you purchase from Cyclone. I'm sure that both of them can you help you pick out some cymbals. I looked at Cyclone's prices, and they are pretty similar to Saludas prices, so you would probably be able to get the same product a little quicker (Saluda just moved into a new .
Anyways, e-mail them both and try 'em out!
BTW, if you want to try a cheap Saluda before you buy one of the nicer Mists, try one of the Voodoo or Pure Chinese (they renamed them) chinas in a 16" or 18" size. They're quick, trashy, and dark. If you get the traditional finish, it will have a little more sizzle.
Anyways, e-mail them both and try 'em out!
BTW, if you want to try a cheap Saluda before you buy one of the nicer Mists, try one of the Voodoo or Pure Chinese (they renamed them) chinas in a 16" or 18" size. They're quick, trashy, and dark. If you get the traditional finish, it will have a little more sizzle.
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xfinsterx
New member
Saludas mist's remind me quite a bit of Sabian B8's.
I dont like the B8's 
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Theyre tinny, and piercing to my ears.
I dont like the B8's
.Theyre tinny, and piercing to my ears.
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cyclone2005
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Thanks Yareek... The Mists are extraordinary, in price, appearance, sound... And the custom finishes, sound style matching, Very sweet deal. We are offering the brilliant sparkle finish option at no charge through the holidays.. Thanks for the sound files, and support PRICES SLASHED and FREE SHIPPING ON ALL CYMBALS and Drumsets THROUGH DEC 25 http://www.cyclonepercussion.com
PRICES SLASHED and FREE SHIPPING ON ALL CYMBALS and Drumsets THROUGH DEC 25 http://www.cyclonepercussion.com
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ausrock
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There were a heap of Saluda clips linked here.......... http://forum.drumshed.org/showthread.php?t=7273 .......I haven't listened to them myself but I presume Dave still has them available.
Cyclone,
I'm surprised the HR "spam nazis" haven't jumped on you for your self promotion ......oddly enough, it is something that is tolerated at places like Ghostnote and Drumshed, etc., but has always been clearly against the site rules on most recording forums.
Cyclone,
I'm surprised the HR "spam nazis" haven't jumped on you for your self promotion
......oddly enough, it is something that is tolerated at places like Ghostnote and Drumshed, etc., but has always been clearly against the site rules on most recording forums.
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cyclone2005
New member
Dont mean to sling gear here
Aussie... The thread asked about the cymbals, I happen to play and record with them and the fact that im a dealer had little bearing. I have responded to other threads with opinions...not gear slinging . Aren't all responses on a thread by a forum member a self promotion?.... sorry if i offended anyone..
Aussie... The thread asked about the cymbals, I happen to play and record with them and the fact that im a dealer had little bearing. I have responded to other threads with opinions...not gear slinging . Aren't all responses on a thread by a forum member a self promotion?....
sorry if i offended anyone..
ausrock
Well-known member
Didn't offend me, twas just an observation, however, I'm sure you understood I was referring to the promotion of your commercial interests in Saludas rather than as I said "self" promotion.
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firby
New member
They are cheap crap. You would be better off getting used zildgian a's for a better price and playing on those. As for the dork who is sitting here pawning them, you are a smuck and you have lost my respect.
Cymbals are all about the alloys used to make them. You can probably get by with a cheap china because many chinas incorporate a cheap trashy sound. Anything else stay away. It's better to have a few good cymbals than loads of crap like saludas. As for trading Zilds for Saludas. That is absolutely positively laughible.
I will buy a handful of saluda cymbals in two years when they are selling from the bargain bin and drill holes in them and put rivets in them. Because that is what you do with a piece of shit cymbal like that.
Cymbals are all about the alloys used to make them. You can probably get by with a cheap china because many chinas incorporate a cheap trashy sound. Anything else stay away. It's better to have a few good cymbals than loads of crap like saludas. As for trading Zilds for Saludas. That is absolutely positively laughible.
I will buy a handful of saluda cymbals in two years when they are selling from the bargain bin and drill holes in them and put rivets in them. Because that is what you do with a piece of shit cymbal like that.
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Yareek
New member
firby said:
Firby,
Saludas are made with the same B20 alloy as all the major manufacturers. If, by your own admission, "cymbals are all about the alloys used to make them,"
then Saludas are equal in every respect to every other professional cast cymbal.
For those of us living in reality, cymbals are about FAR more than just alloys. I'd say the biggest component of the sound is how they're made, not the alloy. When you have cymbals made from rolled sheet bronze, they are going to be really stiff and generally have a "gongy" tone. Their molecules are aligned poorly, resulting in a weaker structure and inhibiting vibration. The cymbal ends up vibrating within itself as opposed to in unison, reducing volume.
Furthermore, cast cymbals can be machined or hand hammered. While both sides have their advantages and disadvantages, hand hammered cymbals tend to sound more complex (some may see this as trashy, but most people see it as a balanced frequency response). They typically have much more dynamics and potential for volume because, again, the molecules of the cymbal are pushed in a different way from random hammering rather than stamped in patterns. Hand hammered cymbals are also tuned by ear rather than formed by look, and thus can be very different from cymbal to cymbal. Some see this as a downside (no two cymbals are alike), others see it as unique. It also provides a chance for the manufacturer to shape the tone of the cymbal.
Finally, bell, weight, profile, lathing, thickness, and finish all come into play.
So what about the alloy? B20 is the standard for sure. Paiste actually uses "inferior" alloys in their products (B8, B12, etc.) to alter the tone. Are they inferior cymbals? Hell no! They're great cymbals, although their sound isn't for everyone. Personally, I find them a bit one-dimensional and bright for my tastes, but for others they are perfect.
Long story short, try the Saludas or not, I don't care, but don't disparage a product when you don't know what you're talking about.
ausrock
Well-known member
I seem to recall that Saluda once said they source their alloy "pies" from what is commonly known as Wuhan which is actually the name of the place where that range of cymbals are made, so it is likely that the "raw product" comes from Hubei Machinery and Equipment who are probably the largest percussion manufacturer in China.
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firby
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Nah they suck
If they are made of chinese alloy that is another reason not to use them. Chinese cymbals are generally cheap. Their sound is cheap. Nothing wrong with that but it ain't no zild K or istanbul.
As for the alloys being the same. I think that what you are telling me is just some marketing bullshit and I am calling you on it. Go sell your wares somewhere else. These people are trying to get VALUE for their money not polished up junk. As for the cymbals they look like they are lathed like shit and everytime I have touched one I have walked away laughing. The fact you twits are so bent on selling them means that you are on the money side of the equation. I have played drums and drumset and percussion for 20 + years and hold a bachelors degree in jazz performance and an associate degree in recording.
But I won't need any laurels to say that your cymbals suck ass. That's why you have to pimp them to people over the internet on ebay. Because once someone hears those cymbals they will make a rational decision and buy cymbals that sound good instead.
What a waste of time, replying to a spam hound like yourself.
If they are made of chinese alloy that is another reason not to use them. Chinese cymbals are generally cheap. Their sound is cheap. Nothing wrong with that but it ain't no zild K or istanbul.
As for the alloys being the same. I think that what you are telling me is just some marketing bullshit and I am calling you on it. Go sell your wares somewhere else. These people are trying to get VALUE for their money not polished up junk. As for the cymbals they look like they are lathed like shit and everytime I have touched one I have walked away laughing. The fact you twits are so bent on selling them means that you are on the money side of the equation. I have played drums and drumset and percussion for 20 + years and hold a bachelors degree in jazz performance and an associate degree in recording.
But I won't need any laurels to say that your cymbals suck ass. That's why you have to pimp them to people over the internet on ebay. Because once someone hears those cymbals they will make a rational decision and buy cymbals that sound good instead.
What a waste of time, replying to a spam hound like yourself.
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Yareek
New member
Once again, misinformation.
Saluda buys cymbal blanks from a manufactuer in China, but that manufacturer is NOT Wuhan. They DID do a few cymbals from Wuhan several years ago, but it was very short-lived as they weren't happy with the sound.
Seems like we got some DJL wannabes with the all Chinese = crap again.
Of course, after they receive the blanks, they are lathed, hammered, and finished in their factory in America. E-mail Jamie if you really want to clear things up.
Listen to my sound clips down in my signature if you think that my cymbals sound like shit. And do a little research before you start giving me negative rep for correcting your errors.
Saluda buys cymbal blanks from a manufactuer in China, but that manufacturer is NOT Wuhan. They DID do a few cymbals from Wuhan several years ago, but it was very short-lived as they weren't happy with the sound.
Seems like we got some DJL wannabes with the all Chinese = crap again.
Of course, after they receive the blanks, they are lathed, hammered, and finished in their factory in America. E-mail Jamie if you really want to clear things up.
Listen to my sound clips down in my signature if you think that my cymbals sound like shit. And do a little research before you start giving me negative rep for correcting your errors.