Rough Mix

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Hi,

This is one verse of a song a friend wrote.
I changed the style,(hope he dosn't mind.)

If anyone would like to give a listen,I'd really appreciate it!

I'm looking for feedback on the production,do the instruments fit the words and melody,and any suggestions on additional instruments would be great!

It's called-Iv'e Got You My Son

Here's the link-




Thanks,
Pete
 
Pete --

The guitars sound very nice, 'cept for the slide (?). It seems distracting, partly cuz there's too much going on w/it and partly cuz it's out of tune in parts -- in tune, it may work better sparringly.

As for other sounds, I'm partial to harmonica :D

Nice melody!

G
 
my biggest problem with the instrumentation is the drums...I think they are played wrong.

the verse is ok....

but when you get into the "boom boom.....boom boom...boom boom" in the chorus....it does nothing to move the rhythm...
play with some different patterns...becuase it kind of makes the whole chorus "drag".

Also, you might want to play with a different guitar picking pattern...or another part (maybe electric) in the chorus...just something to differentiate it musically a tad.

I think it would sound cool when you hit that last note of the chorus "son.." to drop all of the excess instrumentation...and be back into your fingerpicked part for the verse...see what I am saying?

Other than that i think you've got it...just tighten up the performance a tad. nice job

-Wes
 
gmiller1122,

Thanks for taking the time!

I'm not a real good slide player and it never seems to record right,think I'm going to try a 603 (and practice some more!)
I just dig that slide sound.

Harmonica,great idea!
I actualy think I have one in the right key.

wes480,
Thanks for the listen!

The drums were left over from another version that was rock.
I just used them more or less like a click track,definatly going to redo them.

Some electric guitar in the chorus sounds good.

I'll try your suggestion about switching back to fingerpicking after the chorus too.

What do you guys think about some keys?
I have a decent sound module with nice organ,piano,and strings.
Too much?

Thanks for the help,
Pete
 
hey muzeman, it's B.Sabb,

I couldnt get your song to play. I tried to right click also. I notice other people were able to hear it so maybe I'm doing something wrong.. I will try later. Maybe slap it on Nowhere?

I'll check again later, and I will hear it..

later:D
sam
 
i like the slide, I always do. Try adding some clarity to it, so I can hear it better. I like this song, music and mix, but the kick kinda bothers me...it sounds funny, not punchy enough to my taste maybe.

AL
 
I always like slide guitar as well.

Lot's of guitars going on here, maybe you don't need any drums? At least replace the once you have with something a little more organic. They sound out of place to me.
 
hey muze, I only got 1 minute and 30 seconds of it...let me know if the sample was longer... I didnt read the other posts yet.

you asked some specific questions, like "do the instruments fit the words and melody?" I would say yes. It's a very sweet sounding tune and, IMHOP, I would keep it stripped down as much as possible. I would try to have the vocal melody be heard clear and easy, and have the lyrics easily understandable. You mentioned adding even more stuff and I wouldn't. I would not have too much in the way of solos and extras going during the vocal parts.. This tune would be all about the lyrics and vocal melody coming through.. I also won't mention the drums because you said you were redoing them.. I guess I just did though..:D This reminds me a bit of Claptons unplugged stuff..

Anyway, nice bit o tune, I'll look for a complete version..

BTW - I dont like real player, slap it on Nowhere :D

later

sam
 
Sam,
I don't know whats up with the stream?
Works with WMP,which is probably why it won't work with some others.
I'm waiting for my unlimited site to go through with Waldo,ran out of space on the free one.
Thanks for tryin!

A1A2,
Thanks for the listen,
I'm going to retrack it and work on the slide and drums, trying to get some ideas on what works.

erichenryus,
I appreciate you taking the time,
Slide sounds cool,hard to play and record though.
That drum sound definatly has to go!

Thanks,
Pete
 
Sam,

Thanks for listening.

I agree,unplugged acoustic stuff is what I love best.

I may try and add a little electric guitar here and there,but minimal.


"This reminds me a bit of Claptons unplugged stuff."
Dude I think your monitors are in need of repair!:D

I appreciate your input.

Best to you,
Pete
 
thats a pretty darn good "rough mix"....my comments pretty much echo what others have said....the drums just dont fit the style, glad to see you are ditching those.....im listening on crappy speakers and im not detecting any bass......is there one in there?....

as far as the production, id say it definitely fit the song.....i would try,as wes mentioned, to do something different during the chorus to give it a different "feeling" than the verses......

besides those issues, i think you nailed it.....great job indeed......im sure the writer won't mind that you changed styles;)
 
Gidge,

Thanks very much for listening.
I appreciate your comments!

No bass,I don't have one.
I usually use my J station bass preset with my Telecaster,believe it or not works pretty good.

I'm trying to work out some slide and harmonica riffs to go together in the chorus.
I may even kill the drums and just do it acoustic.

"im sure the writer won't mind that you changed styles"

I didn't think so cause he's one cooool dude!:cool:


Thanks.

Best to you,
Pete
 
everything sounds great to me, minus the drums.

i really really really dis like the drums...haha - the kick is especially annoying.

but the rest i love.
 
I like the acoustics sounds for the most part.

Bass is almost imperceptable.

The kick drum sample is too 'jabby', mid range'ish and too loud. Maybe try a sample that has a more 'loose' and deeper tuned head sound to it, and a more realistic one at that. Does it have a touch of reverb on it? I'd avoid that treatment. I think a better sample will help out. The sidestick is too quiet as well. Alternating between rimshots and snare hits is... a bit... odd. Sounds like a miss-triggering sound module or something. Maybe you can switch to snare hits later on in the song (chorus, don't know what the rest of this song is).

I like the vocal sound, honest and real sounding. Could be a little louder.

The three acoustics at the start, with the lead acoustic overtop works. Their very very close. The interaction is there and works, just tighten up a little.

I'd drop it out though when the vocals come in. The fourth guitar just strumming away. Focus on that maybe. Double the strumming guitar and just keep one of the picking guitars, and the slide.

Would need to hear more of the tune.

Nice start though!
 
The kick drum sample is too 'jabby', mid range'ish and too loud. Maybe try a sample that has a more 'loose' and deeper tuned head sound to it, and a more realistic one at that.
Click to expand...
........well said.
...another issue that could use a little tweaking is the lead vocals. Maybe add some shite to fatten it up a bit.....chorus?... i know, you want to keep it simple and dry/clean. ...and that does fit the style of song that it is, but a little something something might help out the performance. Maybe a few harmonies??Great song though, I enjoyed it alot. :D Mike
 
I like the sound (except drums) and the style. The playing sounds a little too much, but I am partial to polished playing :), probably becuase I can't do it myseld. :D

Deffenatly got to watch (practice) the part at about :52 after "I got on my knees..." where it goes up, it's an interesting chord change but it needs to be played and sung more smoothly. Same for 1:18 at the end of chorus. I think maybe drums mess you up a little becuase you try to play with them but the feel of the song is different now.

This tune is "asking" for some country type drums but I think it will "hocky" it up. So I'd do it without drums. You can sertantly have a lot of fun with it. Try do it faster.

good stuff dude.

cheers
 
Pete,

Recieved and processed the MO today, your iSpace is active ;)

W.
 
shackrock,
Thanks very much,the drums are definitly going.

Emeric,
I appreciate your suggestions.
When you say double the guitar strumming,do you mean play it twice and pan it stereo or mix them together?
I'd love to get it to sound even close to yours!

Guernica,
Thanks for the listen,
Do you have any suggestions for chorus settings?
I'd like to give it a try.
Harmony sounds good,if I can do it!

Fed,
I appreciate you taking the time,
Tough song to play on an acoustic.
I tried to play two picking parts in differant registers.
I'm really rusty!
Think I'm going to try Emeric's suggestion and double strum most of it.

Waldo,
Your the man,thanks!:)

Thanks again,
Pete
 
yehaaa!

Hi there. Just done my first final, almost done now Pete.

Been looking farward to hearing your stuff for ages. Great! gotta love those accoustic sets. That slide is very cool. You sing really well, I would like to hear it a bit louder actually. I was getting into it more and more and it faded off? Anyway good show.

Regards

Erland

:)
 
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