OP said he had an F6, not an H6. All the settings, like gain/trim, are in the sub-menu. It might be useful to know what the settings are, phantom power settings, etc. Just to confirm.The switch next to the knobs - each one can be padded down to cope with loud sounds, but if they are in the minus position, you won't have enough gain for loud sounds.
48v phantom Keith.OP said he had an F6, not an H6. All the settings, like gain/trim, are in the sub-menu. It might be useful to know what the settings are, phantom power settings, etc. Just to confirm.
Full manual here: https://zoomcorp.com/media/documents/E_F6.pdf
(Search the PDF for "setting the input source".)
Using 32-bit *float* mode with sufficient TRIM/GAIN on the F6, you should be able to capture a good signal that can be cleaned up pretty well with something like iZotope's RX. This assumes the ambient noise is consistent, which it probably is if you're not "hearing" it in the room.48v phantom Keith.
I tried the Rode Lavalier 11 plugged into my H5 and similar but lesser results so it is the room really.
Yeah, you have to wait for a sale. The "Elements" ($129( version's Voice De-noise might be enough, but certainly, the "Standard" ($399) version's Spectral De-noise works on almost anything I've thrown at it. You might find some free de-noiser plug-in works fine for what you are doing, though.No Keith only noticeable on certain words which then ruin the recording. I will have a look at that plug-in.
I thought the Trim was automatically set when it is in 32-bit float mode, and sounds like it is. If you are using the 24-bit file, you need to set it [Trim level] to whatever makes the track record at to give a good signal (vs. noise floor). There's no "fixed" amount that can be given in advance for any mic - it depends on the source being recorded and placement.Keith I had seen in YouTube videos to set the trim at +22 maximum, cant remember why at this time. Yes it is set at 24/32bit. When in 32bit the Trim cannot be altered.
In this or these videos the mic has to be invisible which was my reason for using the NGT2.