junplugged
Taking the slow road
usb condensor and Audacity on iBook, so he claims, this sounds darn good.
www.ibiblio.org/jimmy/folkden-wp
www.ibiblio.org/jimmy/folkden-wp
MadAudio
Damned if I do
One of my coworkers is going to borrow that mic from a friend of his. Maybe he'll let me try it out.
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Harvey Gerst
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Roger McGuinn will sound like Roger McGuinn thru just about any mic you care to use.
gtrman_66
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Harvey Gerst said:
+1
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timboZ
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And I sound like shit thru any mic I use.Harvey Gerst said:
PhilGood
Juice box hero
Harvey Gerst said:
Exactly!! Whereas if I record taking a dump with a U47, it ain't gonna sound like the Mormon Tabernacle Choir!
Roger would sound great through a Radio Shack mic!!
junplugged
Taking the slow road
my computers are so noisy, i haven't tried to record directly to them. laptop is old, not sure if i could load any useful software on it, but since Audacity is free, i might as well try as long as it runs on 98, then maybe i'll try a usb mic...a lot of maybes and ifs
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Harvey Gerst
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When I recorded him in 1963 (back when he was Jim, not Roger) into an old Wollensack tape recorder (with a cheap dynamic mic), he still sounded exactly like McGuinn, except he had a Gibson 12 string acoustic guitar.PhilGood said:
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chessrock
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I'm not trying to be a gear snob or to push anyone's buttons on this ... but I just had a listen to that, and honestly, I think the recording sounds very rough. Nothing against the guy's talent ... he's great ... but that does, in all honesty, sound like a very roughly tracked demo using a cheap mic on someone's laptop. Good song, good talent, etc. but there's nothing impressive at all about the recording quality.
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kidvybes
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chessrock said:
...exactly correct...sounds like Roger (Jim) McGuinn thru a lousy recording chain...reality check
BigRay
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It sounds good to me...even though it is through cheap stuff, still sounds better than a lot of "rough" demos I hear floating around..thats a fact.
and no offense, but you do like to sit back and hurl hand grenades to see who you can piss off....Thats fine, but dont preempt it with "im not trying to push anyones buttons" when given your posting history, you do that quite a bit.
and I AM a gear snob, and to me it sounds good....id buy it even..
and no offense, but you do like to sit back and hurl hand grenades to see who you can piss off....Thats fine, but dont preempt it with "im not trying to push anyones buttons" when given your posting history, you do that quite a bit.
and I AM a gear snob, and to me it sounds good....id buy it even..
chessrock said:
scrubs
Not of sound mind
Well, I think the guitar itself is a good sounding guitar. The voice sounds like McGuinn. However, the recording is tubby in the bass and sounds just about what I would expect if he set up the mic in a hotel room and recorded himself. I think the point is, you can make music with any level of equipment. The talent/ability will shine through.
junplugged
Taking the slow road
you answered the question i had and didn't ask, i was wondering why the url is www.ibiblio.org/JIMMYHarvey Gerst said:
as far as the quality of the recording, it's and mp3, but more importantly, he couldn't get those recordings if he put his mind to the technical aspects of it. So when i listened, i didn't judge anything but the music. c'mon people put your heads in order, it's folk and it's great, and he's doing something awesome and considering the circumstances he's recording under, imagine he had an old tape deck and a dynamic mic, well, then all of these great recordings would sound like Salty Dog Blues that he recorded in 1958 at his house at 57 E. Division Street in Chicago. Listen to that one and compare. It's on the right side under Catagories in Blues.
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Harvey Gerst
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ibiblio.org is an Internet Public library. Roger's goal with the Folk Den is to preserve as many of the traditional folk songs as possible.junplugged said:you answered the question i had and didn't ask, i was wondering why the url is www.ibiblio.org/JIMMY
junplugged
Taking the slow road
He's doing a great job and surely for no money.
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Jacobi1211
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aside from some phasing issues and EQ indifferences... it's actually not too bad of a recording for a laptop and one mic. I think the fact that it is the same mic on all instruments accounts for a big chunk of the lack of tonality... i'm sure he didn't do an aweful lot of EQing... I love it!!! Most of my favorite songs are very VERY rough recordings... and I think it is a beautiful thing!!! I think there is something to be said about not falsely representing a performance that never REALLY happened with over-production... it's an art... just like any recording is an art... technique should be appreciated and not judged so harshly. listen to Bob Dylans basement tapes... the quality of recording (or lack there of) makes them even more beautiful, and more distinct... but, i do also think that listening to lots and lots of music, and having your own opinion is very good practice! good topic!!!
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chessrock
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BigRay said:
As long as you can agree not to preempt some asinine comment that's obviously meant to inflame and offend with "no offense."
I was being very sincere. No grenades intended. The music and performance sound great. The recording quality sounds just like what it is ... a rough demo. There's no shame in that..
kidvybes
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chessrock said:
...again I agree completely...I don't understand why everybody's getting their backs up...if that wasn't Roger (or Jim) McGuinn, and that MP3 file was up on some home recording site, nobody would be jumpin' up n' down to defend it...Chess's evaluation is accurate...it's nothing more than a rough demo that happens to have been recorded by a "legend"...thus the backlash...it sounds exactly like it should sound, having been recorded by a professional recording artist into a minimal computer based recording chain...nothing more, nothing less..."rough" is not a knock...if McGuinn was sending that track over to an A&R person that he knew at a major label, he would say "I'm sending over this rough demo for you to listen to"...just calling it what it is...as the man said, "there's no shame in that"...jeez...
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Slowjett
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OK i have no Idea who Jimmy or Roger or whatever McGuinn is, but it aint bad. I wasnt overly impressed with the wade in the water song.. thats all I listened to, it sounded like way too much stuff just shoved in there. But it didnt sound bad at all. I woulndt smack it down. He did a good job with that one mic.
guitar junkie
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i read once that he puts some background distortion on his tracks so that people do not make bootleg CDs of his free music and put it on the market... he also seems to use low bit rate MP3 encoding...
some of the songs he has up there i have played around with and use in my live show!
i have started with his ideas and moved them along to play in coffee houses around town.
great stuff and its free!
some of the songs he has up there i have played around with and use in my live show!
i have started with his ideas and moved them along to play in coffee houses around town.
great stuff and its free!