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Can anyone give a review of the differences in these................Will be using primarily for acoustic guitar,
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V847
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I guess we can add the MXL 603/991 to this comparison
I guess we can add the MXL 603/991 to this comparison.
Also, what is the diff between buying two seperate (same) mics, and a "stereo pair"???
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I guess we can add the MXL 603/991 to this comparison.
Also, what is the diff between buying two seperate (same) mics, and a "stereo pair"???
Thanks,
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Big Kenny
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why not add mk012's?
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Sorry champ...which one's Rode C5?/ got a link or something? 
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I think he means NT5.
I have some NT5 and love them, especially on guitar. A friend also has the C4 and he likes them a lot as well. A couple of weeks ago we did some quick A/B comparisons (Unfortunetly I deleted the takes so I can't post them). The two mics were fairly close, but we found the NT5 to have a fair bit more gain, and sound a little bit clearer.
I have some NT5 and love them, especially on guitar. A friend also has the C4 and he likes them a lot as well. A couple of weeks ago we did some quick A/B comparisons (Unfortunetly I deleted the takes so I can't post them). The two mics were fairly close, but we found the NT5 to have a fair bit more gain, and sound a little bit clearer.
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Sorry, I did mean NT5
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ticohans
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I haven't had any personal experience with either mic, but from what I've read, the Rode mics are generally a little darker and mellower, while the C4's are brighter, and not in a bad way (ie: harsh). Basically, I think it boils down to the sound color that you want to use.
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I have used C4's for both drum overheads and recording an upright bass, and have been pleased with both scenarios. I do not have the Rodes, so I can't give you a sound comparison. I do have Rode NT1 and I think it's a great mic for the price. However, in terms of features I believe the C4's offer more because they come with omni and cardoid capsules, shockmounts, and a switchable -10dB pad/ high pass filter. The rodes are probably really good too, and I would love to have a pair.
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I think the Behringer B5 is more like the C4 than the Rode NT5... and two Brhringer B5's are only $179.99 appose to $319.99 for the C4's... that's $140.00 less.V847 said:
Behringer B5...
http://www.8thstreet.com/product.asp?ProductCode=21014&Category=Microphones
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I think the C4's are better overhead mics for drums etc. than acoustic guitar, but would rather have a pair of CAD M179's any day over them for versatility and sound.
For acoustic guitar though, I'd lean towards two Oktava MC012's if you can find a good pair.
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For acoustic guitar though, I'd lean towards two Oktava MC012's if you can find a good pair.
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[QUOTE= However, in terms of features I believe the C4's offer more because they come with omni and cardoid capsules, "shockmounts", and a switchable -
The NT5 s come with better shock mounts that the C4. My buddy just went and bought new shockmounts for his C4's, they come with a small one thats held with elastic type wire, and the wires always come off, and don't hold the mic in tight enough. The mounts with the Rode, are tight as heck, you need to use force, and they don't go anywhere if you don't want them to.
The NT5 s come with better shock mounts that the C4. My buddy just went and bought new shockmounts for his C4's, they come with a small one thats held with elastic type wire, and the wires always come off, and don't hold the mic in tight enough. The mounts with the Rode, are tight as heck, you need to use force, and they don't go anywhere if you don't want them to.
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I've owned both the NT5's and the C4's and I liked them both. The NT5 was darker and slightly cloudier ( ie not as clear) than the C4, but both are great mics and work well. If I had to choose again I'd take the C4's as they seem more versitle. Both are nice musical sounding mics.
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On guitar I'd favor the Oktava MK012.
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Do you favor the Oktava MK012 over the Marshall MXL603S for acoustic guitar? The reason why I'm asking is because I'm getting the idea that the C4 is more like the MXL603S than the Oktava MK012 as far as drak vs bright goes?ozraves said:
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The C4 is not like the 603. I think the 603 just sounds plain cheap and harsh. Of course I've only tried out 2 pairs, but took them both back because they sounded waaaay to bright, thin and harsh to me. Steve may have had different experiences though.
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If that's true, I guess those of us who like the Marshall MXL603S on acoustic guitar might hate the Studio Projects C4. Anyway, I was asking ozraves because he always seems to be honest and is not just another PMI supporter... so I'd like to hear what he has to say.John Mayes said:
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That is very possible. It's also possible I just got some dud's. Lots of people like the 603's so it may very well just be my ears, or the situation. And Don (if that's your name), call me what you want...I don't care, but don't call me dishonest that is very insulting and it pisses me off. I am a PMI supporter in the sense that I own 2 of their mics and like them but, that is the extent of my "support". And if Steve wants to come over and try out the C4's at my house (I've been meaning to meet him for a while now) he is more than welcome. Heck he can just borrow them if he has not already tried them out.
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I’ll explain. IMO, the Marshall MXL603S is one of the best Cheap Chinese made mics on the market today... I own several and have never heard a bad one... but it is possible you got a dud just like it’s possible to get a Studio Projects C4 dud. Anyway, IMO the Marshall MXL603S can sound great on acoustic guitars, nice and crisp... but it can suck as drum overheads because the 603S doesn’t seem to handle real bright things like cymbals... bright things can sound a little harsh. Hey John is your Mayes guitar bright? On the other hand... the Oktava MC-012 is a tad darker sounding than the Marshall MXL603S and can sound great as drum overheads, but can also be a little dull and plain on acoustic guitars for my taste. I want to know where the C4 falls... so this why I asked ozraves.John Mayes said:
And now to the other crap...
John, I didn’t say you were dishonest... but I do believe you’re a friend of Alan Haytt's and a PMI supporter... please correct me if I wrong?
Here's one of the reasons why I believe you’re a PMI supporter.
Example... read futurestar’s question about the JoeMeek and your answer. http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=127203
Futurestar... (Joe Meek 3Q)
Has anyone got one of these? I'm also considering the TwinQ. Does anyone have a review of the 3Q they'd like to share?
John Mayes...
I'd sure like to try one. I would like a rack mountable one better, but hey beggars can't be choosers. Again this is not helping any, but they do look nice...
Put that together with your other post and I think it’s obvious you’re a strong PMI supporter. Now, I’m not saying it’s a bad thing to be Alan’s friend or a PMI supporter... but, I want to hear ozraves opinion because I believe his opinion might be a bit less influenced than yours... no offence intended.
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I did not try them on one of my guitars. I was recording a demo project for a friend (just guitars, vocals and some djembe). He had a Taylor guitar which I usually do find to be rather bright. So there could be the whole problem itself. I needed to find a mic that suited that session and the NT5 beat out the 603's by a long shot. In fact in the instance I think they would have done better than the C4's as well, but maybe not I did not have them at the time.
My guitars are anything but "bright" (I take that as meaning overly treble laden). My guitars are rich and full sounding, but well balanced. So the 603's might fare better on one of my guitars...I don't know.
As for being a supporter of things. Heck if you take the dogmatic approch then I guess I'm a supporter of lots of things. Sktechers shoes, Mountian Dew, PMI, BLUE, Chevy trucks, DigiDesign, Elixir Strings, Sony Digital Cameras, Apple computers...ect you get the point. That does not mean that I'm incapable of giving a unbiased opinion though. I call it like I see it. If I think it is crap then I'll say so. If I like it I'll say so. I heard one of SP's LD mics a year or so ago (same session as mentioned before) one of the cheaper ones.. I forget the model number, but it sucked on this guys voice. We ended up using a Rode NTK, and a Neumann TLM-103. Which I would be considered a Neumann Supporter too as I think they make some very nice (albeit many times overpriced) microphones. But on lots of things I think the TLM-103 sounds lifeless, and sterile.
From this sentence "I was asking ozraves because he always seems to be honest and is not just another PMI supporter..." I took away that Steve (ozraves) was honest and not a PMI supporter, and that I must have been the opposite of that. Which would make me a Dishonest PMI supporter. I'm glad to know that you did not mean it that way. And thanks for clearing that up.
I understand your point of view but just remember being a consumer/supporter of something does not automatically mean your incapable of giving a unbiased opinion.
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Anyway... I'd like to read what ozraves has to say.
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