RNP vs. DMP3

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By the way, I forgot to mention the RNP example has a couple of annoying peaks at 2k and 3.5k. In order to make the dmp3 file sound even more like the RNP one, try boosting about 1 or 2 db at these two spots, using a very very narrow Q. I don't know why you'd want to, but . . .
 
So, Chessrock, are you honestly trying to say that based upon you hearing an MP3 file of one guitar, recorded in a room you are unfamiliar with, that the only real difference between two preamps, one of which you've probably never heard in person, is some EQ? :rolleyes:
 
Meb said:
So, Chessrock, are you honestly trying to say that based upon you hearing an MP3 file of one guitar, recorded in a room you are unfamiliar with, that the only real difference between two preamps, one of which you've probably never heard in person, is some EQ? :rolleyes:
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No. Actually, it would be multiband compression, which is sort of like eq, I guess.

What I am saying is that on those particular files (with that particular guitar recorded in that particular room on that particular day) . . . there was very little difference between them other than frequency response (and, of course, the performance itself). Take out of it whatever you want.
 
chessrock said:
No. Actually, it would be multiband compression, which is sort of like eq, I guess.

What I am saying is that on those particular files (with that particular guitar recorded in that particular room on that particular day) . . . there was very little difference between them other than frequency response (and, of course, the performance itself). Take out of it whatever you want.
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It doesn't matter whether it's EQ or Linear Phase Multiband, you are still reaching on this one. Oh, well, everyone is completely entitled to reach once in a while!;)
 
Meb said:
It doesn't matter whether it's EQ or Linear Phase Multiband, you are still reaching on this one. Oh, well, everyone is completely entitled to reach once in a while!;)
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Dude Rancher, from the sounds of things, you seem to enjoy doing an awful lot of reaching, yourself :D

LOL. :D I suppose I should thank you for giving me a really good laugh over some of the nonsense you were spitting out on this thread:

https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=67738

It doesn't even seem like you know the difference between an XLR and a 1/4" cable or -10dBV from +4 dBu.

https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=67635

That is some precious stuff. :D

I'd be very shocked were you to even have any clue whatsoever what multiband compression even is, let alone the priciples behind how it works.

I'd think you'd know all about the subject of reaching, though. As in Reaching for a clue . . any clue whatsoever as to what you're talking about.
 
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My, my! Sounds like Chessrock's been reading that famous document: "Diplomacy: It's all about Respect" by Sweetnubs.

Either that or all that modelling heavy-lifting you've been doing has made you cranky! Perhaps that new Waves Phase Linear "Lighten Up" plug-in would help...

Now, about that business proposition I wished to discuss about making silk purses out of sows ears...
 
Look, LD, I'm just sick of all these Jimmy Joemeeks and Andy Alesis' running all over this board thinking they can take jabs at Chessrock like that. Chessrock has better things to do. Meanwhile George Bush is busy genetically engineering mutant killer monkeys he plans to use to take over the human race (Oh, the voices, again! Make the voices stop ! ! !).

By the way, LD, I think you forgot an important rule, here: only those who take a stab and participate in the shootout have the right to comment. It sure is easy enough to comment after you know the results. Even our clueless friend Meb was able to properly guess which of the examples was the RNP. :D As far as I'm concerned, LD, you're still a couple of notches below Meb on the pecking order on this particular thread. :D :D Maybe you could have him teach you a few things about multiband compression. :D
 
Chessrock,

I'm tempted to start shouting and name calling, but I wont. I'll admit that my posts to you were a little rude and after I posted the first one to you, I felt a little bad about putting the :rolleyes: after it and almost went back to edit it. But, honestly it was just in fun. I have a lot of respect for you and others here as far as their technical knowledge. However, Chessrock, the fact that you had to go and research and take the time to find quotes to possibly embarrass me, really speaks for itself. You are right, my technical knowledge about many things regarding electronics and cables is not very strong. However, I'm NOT new to music and production at all and my ears are quite good at hearing differences in things. And yes, I know what multiband compression is, use it quite frequently, and own the C4 multiband. I am quite positive, however, that you probably do know a lot more about multiband compression than I do, as it can be quite complicated. But, what does this have to do with this little exchange you and I are having? I was merely saying that I felt that you were reaching here by implying in previous posts that from hearing an MP3 sample, that the only real difference between 2 preamps, was both some multiband compression and then some EQ. You did not sound like you were just talking about this sample of the guitars, but about whether you should spend the money on the RNP. I still think you were reaching, but perhaps reaching was too strong a word. However, I don't see where in my posts, that I was reaching. Technically inept perhaps:D, but not reaching. I just needed some technical knowledge and was asking for it. I was 'reaching' for knowledge, but that's a different type of reaching completely.
Anyway, none of this matters. I shouldn't be taking the time to write this. I should be on the long road back home to my parents house for Christmas and not taking the time to respond here.

Peace Chessrock!

Meb
 
chessrock said:
As far as I'm concerned, LD, you're still a couple of notches below Meb on the pecking order on this particular thread.
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Dear Chessnubs,

No news there. I'm a couple of notches below just about everyone on every thread...
 
Meb said:
Anyway, none of this matters. I shouldn't be taking the time to write this. I should be on the long road back home to my parents house for Christmas and not taking the time to respond here.
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Hope your Christmas was a good one. :D I must apologize, as I should probably stay away from the BBS after a night of holiday boozing, as I tend to get this uncontrollable urge to be obnoxious and subsequently stir shit up.

Where this all started was with a comment that Tubedude made that went something like: "Just don't complain when your tracks don't sound as good as mine." Well.

My original intention was to take a shot at Tubedude for being what I thought was a bit presumptuous. Not to discount the importance of the mic pre in the signal chain.

One can spend their money however they like. And no disrespect to Participant, but I think for the $500 I'm assuming he spent on the RNP, Participant would have realized a world of better sound quality by spending that money on a better guitar. I'm sorry, P, but I think you've outgrown whatever you were playing, and it just wasn't quite doing your skills justice.

I think tubedude's comment would certainly apply in a lot of cases, but given a Martin Brazillian (or similar handmade), a good player, and a bunch of Ethan Winer's bass traps, and I guarantee you tubedude's tracks will be smoked every time by any of us, regardless of his fancy preamps. :D
 
Re: a recurring theme

participant said:
VTB1/RNP comparison coming this weekend. Thanks for "participating" ("party-pantsing?" :D) in this one :)
Chad
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Hi Chad, did you do the Studio Projects VTB-1 mic preamp verses the FMR Audio RNP8380 mic preamp shootout yet?
 
A promise is a promise. Once this holiday stuff is outta the way, I should get the time. Thanks for the patience DJL.
 
I wouldnt consider the rnp a fancy pre. Im gonna holdout for the vtb-2 coming out next month. 300v 2 channel tube pre for arround the same scratch
 
participant said:
A promise is a promise. Once this holiday stuff is outta the way, I should get the time. Thanks for the patience DJL.
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Thank you participant, I'm looking forward to hearing it. Thanks again.
 
darrin_h2000 said:
Im gonna holdout for the vtb-2 coming out next month. 300v 2 channel tube pre for arround the same scratch
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More like double the scratch, actually. Unless something has changed very recently, Alan has said that he is targeting $800 to $1,000 for the VTB-2.
 
jslator said:
More like double the scratch, actually. Unless something has changed very recently, Alan has said that he is targeting $800 to $1,000 for the VTB-2.
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You could get a Great River MP-1NV for that knid of money.
 
jslator said:
More like double the scratch, actually. Unless something has changed very recently, Alan has said that he is targeting $800 to $1,000 for the VTB-2.
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Great to see you here. You were always a great help over on Harmony Central Recording Forum, and I look forward to your future posts!
 
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