RNMP ... I'll believe it when I see it.....

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Well, I talked to Mark yesterday for about an hour and this thing is gonna be amazing. The specs on it are almost unbelievable, and coming from anybody other than Mark, or a Dan Kennedy, I'd probably say, "Yeah, you wish", except Mark met all the specs by a wide margin on the RNC, so I tend to believe him about this beast.

He's done a lot of clever things in this unit, circuitry-wise, so I'm really looking forward to actually putting this thing thru the wringer.
 
Hi Harvey

I read on this board that you had a demo for a while.
Can you give me an idea what it sounds like?
Clean, Colored, RCA, Neve, Meek, API?
Any info would be a big help.
Thanx,
Carmen
:)
 
It's going to be very similar to the RCA preamps. except high gain (72dB), low noise (EIN-127dB), and wide band (like from 0 to about 300kHz, for the -3dB points), very smooth sounding, from what Mark says he's heard from people who've tried it. I should know by this week or next.
 
Got dammit.......now i need a R-N-C and a R-N-M-P!.......i better get a second J-O-B !!!!!!!!
 
what about all the gear you already have? record someone's demo for a day for $50, you will have a good time, thats a second job. 5 days in the next 2 months (60 days) and you get an RNC, twice that and you can get the RNMP.
 
i dont have the patience at this point to put up with "the band's" attitude.....

besides my gear isnt set up to record a band (Delta Audiophile).......
 
How necessary is it to use equipment with balanced ins/outs? The RNC, despite its lack of balanced connections, elicits rave reviews. I assume the RNMP will not have balanced connections either. Are specs available yet for this unit?
 
Hey Harv,

Word on the street is that the RNMP will have some sort of auto-gain control...any truth to this, and if so, do you have any insight on how that might operate without getting into the realm of compression/leveling? Also, I hear the unit has a more transformer/tube <insert buzzword> vintage sound, right?
 
Dolemite said:
Hey Harv,

Word on the street is that the RNMP will have some sort of auto-gain control...any truth to this, and if so, do you have any insight on how that might operate without getting into the realm of compression/leveling? Also, I hear the unit has a more transformer/tube <insert buzzword> vintage sound, right?
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Oh oh, there's that V word again :D
 
Dolemite said:
Hey Harv,

Word on the street is that the RNMP will have some sort of auto-gain control...any truth to this, and if so, do you have any insight on how that might operate without getting into the realm of compression/leveling? Also, I hear the unit has a more transformer/tube <insert buzzword> vintage sound, right?
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That's gonna be on the pro model, not this one. Mark is trying to match the tone of the older RCA preamps, and Mark say that people who have heard it say that he did it, but I'll reserve judgement till I actually hear it. I'm just going to compare it on its own merits, not the claims, although I believe Mark's claims about the specs. "Tone" is a whole 'nother story.

We basically just talked specs, circuitry, and about the problems of getting new products out to the marketplace, and Mark is feeling the pressure of having to hit another home run with this unit. One very cool thing did come up, which I love.

On this new unit, it will still use a wall wart power supply, but, if you lose your wall wart, almost any PS will do as long as the plug fits. It's gonna run off a 9 to 15 volt DC power supply, but get this: It doesn't really care about the voltage, or the polarity of the plug. It'll figure out the right voltage and polarity automatically.

If it's an AC wart or it's not getting sufficient power, the display will blink, as if to say, "Sorry, can't use it". Is that cool or what?
 
Harvey, what RCA preamp are we talking here?

I thought with it's price the RNMP would certainly be using IC's, how can IC's possibly sound like vintage gear which used either discrete transistors or tubes?
 
You must remember that Mark is very good at DSP design. I think he's patterned the tone after the BA-2 or BA-6 (not sure of the older RCA model numbers). As I said, I don't like claims of it sounds like _____. I know he's going after tone, not transparency, per se.

I'll listen to it on it's own merits and compare it to some mic preamps I have here, like the Great River NV, and the Millinia Media SST-1.
 
Harvey Gerst said:
That's gonna be on the pro model, not this one.
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Ahhh, I see. So not on the Harvey Gerst bottom-feeder model ;)

Mark is trying to match the tone of the older RCA preamps, and Mark say that people who have heard it say that he did it, but I'll reserve judgement till I actually hear it. I'm just going to compare it on its own merits, not the claims, although I believe Mark's claims about the specs. "Tone" is a whole 'nother story.
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This is interesting...but I wish I had an idea of what an old RCA mic pre sounded like. Would that be more of a Neve/API sound or perhaps a Telefunken V72 tubey-ness?

We basically just talked specs, circuitry, and about the problems of getting new products out to the marketplace, and Mark is feeling the pressure of having to hit another home run with this unit.
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I'm sure its a different situation than coming out of nowhere with the RNC.

One very cool thing did come up, which I love.

On this new unit, it will still use a wall wart power supply, but, if you lose your wall wart, almost any PS will do as long as the plug fits. It's gonna run off a 9 to 15 volt DC power supply, but get this: It doesn't really care about the voltage, or the polarity of the plug. It'll figure out the right voltage and polarity automatically.

If it's an AC wart or it's not getting sufficient power, the display will blink, as if to say, "Sorry, can't use it". Is that cool or what?
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That is cool! I wish my frickin' battery charger did that...lost the damn wall wart and I'm up the proverbial shit creek! There's not even any indication of what voltage it needs...bah!

You must remember that Mark is very good at DSP design. I think he's patterned the tone after the BA-2 or BA-6 (not sure of the older RCA model numbers). As I said, I don't like claims of it sounds like _____. I know he's going after tone, not transparency, per se.
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Are you saying there's some DSP going on to model tone?
 
What gets me is that everybody on R.A.P. is convinced this thing is going to be a clean, "straight wire with gain" unit...meanwhile us homerec'ing simpletons have been hearing from Harvey for months that its going to have a distinct "tone."

I guess all those that made assumptions based on the RNC are going to be surprised!

;)
 
yeah....I wish it was clean. Not saying I will not seriously consider getting one - tone is a good thing. But...I tend to like a very neutral tone...think i will still be in the market for a Neve or an API. Though, that Grace stuff is really starting to reel me in. I am going to go have a listen soon.

That 8 preamp version that Grace has (8 101s, as I understand it)...man, that thing looks sweet...for what, 4500 bucks. Pack that puppy up with a Delta1010 and you are swinging for 5 grand.

-Wes
(Sperm donation works - TRUST ME)
 
Man, I'm glad you're not spending MY money!

$5 grand better buy me a WHOLE lot more than an 8 channel IC preamp and an 8 channel sound card.

LOL!
 
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