RNLA... Realy nice limiting amplifier

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Cool!
I bought a couple of ART Pro VLAs just for this purpose. But There is always room for more.
Looks like they are available in a couple of weeks!

Tom
 
We've had a prototype here for several months and it's amazing. More when Mark tells me it's ok to mention the details.
 
My prayers have been answered.

Whenever you can spill the beans harvey, would be appreciated!!!

J
 
now whats the big difference with the rnc, if you turn the rnc's ratio to unlimited its a limiter too...right?

and will this unit be balanced? if so, man, they're gonna sell like cigarettes!! :D

(nevermind my question..found the answer myself :rolleyes:
Despite the unbalanced input/output connections, the RNLA has a dynamic range of 117dB, minimum.....)
 
my limiting plugins suck. Should this work pretty good on an acoustic guitar? Thats all I would need it for.
 
ps, about limiter plugins, i know lots of people that are satisfied with the Waves L3,
but another super simple to use plugin is the "pocket limiter", can't remember by what 'manufacturer', i love it for pumping up drumtracks and stuff,
those are the only two that ever satisfied me
 
earworm said:
now whats the big difference with the rnc, if you turn the rnc's ratio to unlimited its a limiter too...right?
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(i know you found the answer--this is for the rest of the folks)

the RNC and RNLA are two differently architected pieces of gear. the RNC is a VCA based compressor, whereas the RNLA is an optical-based limiter. there are fundamental differences in the "way" they operate as well as in the differences between a compressor and a limiter--neither of which i'll go into b/c you can look em up. :D

essentially the RNC is a compressor and will be more "uncolored", and the RNLA is a limiter and will be somewhat colored. i can see good use for the RNLA on bass, drum submixes and across the mix buss.....which are some things that IMO, the RNC doesn't quite excel at.

in a nutshell (and probably LARGELY oversimplifying), i would assume that the RNLA is much akin to the ART PRO VLA.


cheers,
wade
 
to continue my question;..
whats the difference between a brick wall limiter and a "normal" limiter?
or isn't there any...
i found that when i use compressors with an unlimited ratio they still can let some peaks trough... is it true that a brickwall won't let anything true?
the most simple example: Waves C1 with unlimited ratio doesn't hold all the peaks, and L3 stops everything.... how come?
 
earworm said:
to continue my question;..
whats the difference between a brick wall limiter and a "normal" limiter?
or isn't there any...
i found that when i use compressors with an unlimited ratio they still can let some peaks trough... is it true that a brickwall won't let anything true?
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you answered your own question. :D

yes, a brickwall limiter should not let anything through.......whereas a compressor with an unlimited ratio (infinity) MAY still let through the occasional peak.

with all apologies to Mixerman, think of a brick wall limiter as, quite literally, a brick wall for audio. what happens when an egg (or your face) hits a brick wall? SPLAT. that's what happens to audio when it hits a brick wall limiter.


cheers,
wade
 
mrface2112 said:
in a nutshell (and probably LARGELY oversimplifying), i would assume that the RNLA is much akin to the ART PRO VLA.
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Yea, but with far greater control over the parameters (attack, release, ratio, etc.) ... and even better yet, none of the famed ART "faux toob" crap.

I get a feeling these things are going to sell by the boat load. I'm kinda' pissed that Mark had to do this, in a way, because it's yet another $200 or so I'm sure I don't have much choice investing at some point. Damn, that guy.
 
chessrock said:
I get a feeling these things are going to sell by the boat load. I'm kinda' pissed that Mark had to do this, in a way, because it's yet another $200 or so I'm sure I don't have much choice investing at some point. Damn, that guy.
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Yeah, damn him!!! Doesn't he know I've already blown my gear budget for the next 4 years? Frickin' GAS. :p
 
chessrock said:
Yea, but with far greater control over the parameters (attack, release, ratio, etc.) ... and even better yet, none of the famed ART "faux toob" crap.
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OH ABSOLUTELY. :D

i was just drawing a comparison to another opto compressor that people around here seem to have some experience with for "frame of reference sake" and NOTHING more. ;)

chessrock said:
I get a feeling these things are going to sell by the boat load.
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i'll say. this thing seems that it'll be the yang to the RNC's yin.

i'm gonna go on a limb here and say that compression-wise, that between these two boxes, there's not a lot one at the project studio level couldn't do.


chessrock said:
Damn, that guy.
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yeah, damn mark for making such kickass products at such a "reachable" pricepoint. :D :p


cheers,
wade
 
earworm said:
now whats the big difference with the rnc, if you turn the rnc's ratio to unlimited its a limiter too...right?

and will this unit be balanced? if so, man, they're gonna sell like cigarettes!! :D

(nevermind my question..found the answer myself :rolleyes:
Despite the unbalanced input/output connections, the RNLA has a dynamic range of 117dB, minimum.....)
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The user guide says its unbalanced. Unless you plan on running it across the street, it should not be an issue.
 
1. It's not a limiter, it's a leveling amplifier.
2. It's not based on a optical compression circuit, but it sounds like one.

So, it's a compressor that is intended to introduce colour, where the RNC is designed to be transparent.

I'd venture a guess that they actuallu use virtually the same, or maybe even exactly the same hardware, but have different control algorithms. They will surely be a cool combo...
 
Must.....make....VST version.

Anyone have any opinions on the really nice mic pre?
 
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