RNC .. stuff

[promesis]

Are the two channels on the RNC (though they share the same controls) .. separate or summed .. or what?

For example:
If I use one unit for two mics over a spread of 4 toms .. will the channels be affected by each other? .. say like on a roll descending through the 4 toms, will the attack of the second spread of toms affect the decay of the previously struck first pair .. if that makes sense.. or would it be best to use just the L (mono) channel for one unit (and set of toms) and use another unit for the next set of toms? Then utilizing the "stereo" set up of both channels simultaneously for programme material only?

Any Ideas or Opinions about this?

Anyone, of course, thinking about purchasing this unit - don't hesitate. They seem to live up to the hype. It's all I can do not using "RealNice Mode" all of the time! I got 4 units : two racked together and 1 each racked with their "parent" RNPs from Mercenery. As an aside, the RNPs are slamming too. Use them for the Kick (ATM25), Snare (SM57) and Two Sets of Toms (AT4033s) referred to above. Granted, I have only actually tracked with these once.. but definitely a lot cleaner than the pres in my Mackie 32/8. I don't know if this is just a "psychological effect" .. but it seemed as though the "isolation" between mics increased a bit using the external pres.

I have not used the RNCs inserted into the RNPs .. usually don't compress while tracking .. that may change - but the above issue of the RNC's "separate channels" (or lack thereof) will help me in either case... so any opinions using the two (RNP/RNC) together in this manner will definitely be helpful!

as always .. thanks for your patience.

 

[Blue Bear Sound]

The RNC is a 2-channel that can be used as a mono signal compressor (patch to either channel) or as a stereo compressor (linked channels). It CAN'T be used as a dual mono compressor (since the control operate on both channels.)

 

[promesis]

Thanks Bruce ...inferring from your answer :

If I use one unit for two mics over a spread of 4 toms .. will the channels be affected by each other? .. say like on a roll descending through the 4 toms, will the attack of the second spread of toms affect the decay of the previously struck first pair ... or would it be best to use just the L (mono) channel for one unit (and set of toms) and use another unit for the next set of toms? Then utilizing the "stereo" set up of both channels simultaneously for programme material only?

Then these would be "Yes"...

So it "would" be best to utilize the single (mono) channel for the separate Toms and not "linked" - right? I am still not sure whether the "effect" of one influences/counteracts/hinders the other in my "scenerio".

Please.. bear with me.. .. and elaborate on the effects of one "mono side" to the other in "link/stereo" mode. i.e. my "scenerio" of coupling the RNC channels with inputs (two Tom mics) that require the same settings.

.. thanks as usual for your insight and your patience... I am just starting out with this stuff and I want to imbibe all that I can to garner a comprehensive understanding of both "doing things like this becuase of this... ", "never do this because of this.." and "well you can do this - but understand .. these are the limitations and this is the science behind it". Kind of a integrated philosophy of science and deliberate application.

 

[mrface2112]

as long as your sources (inputs) require the same settings, then have no fear in using both inputs. sometimes if you *have* to, you can kinda split the difference.

they call it a "stereo compressor"......but it's only got 1 set of controls, so it essentially operates as a mono compressor with a second "child" channel without independent controls.

i tend to use it on a stereo bus--say for guitars or vocals, where i can be assured that the sources need similar compression and i can control each of the channel levels independently (via the mixing console).

as long as you don't need drastic level changes/differences between the 2 channels, you should be fine. where you get worked into a corner is when you're trying to use it (for example) on bass guitar and snare drum, where you'd want totally different attack, release and ratio settings between the two sources. for that, you'll want a dual-mono compressor.

so.....in your case, for 4 toms, i'd mix them down to a stereo bus on your console, and send that stereo bus to the RNC.


that help any?


cheers,
wade