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foreverain4
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ok, well, i think i am in love. i plugged my r92 in to my la610. played my tele through my vox ac30. it was like buttah. pretty much the best guitar tone i have gotten. i turned the back side toward the amp and put the brighter side facing out in to the room. i just sat in the control room for 2 hrs playing my guitar. felt like the first time... 
i will get to try it as room mics for drums, and on vocals on thursday, will report back..
i will get to try it as room mics for drums, and on vocals on thursday, will report back..
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perceive
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ok, well, i think i am in love. i plugged my r92 in to my la610. played my tele through my vox ac30. it was like buttah. pretty much the best guitar tone i have gotten. i turned the back side toward the amp and put the brighter side facing out in to the room. i just sat in the control room for 2 hrs playing my guitar. felt like the first time...
i will get to try it as room mics for drums, and on vocals on thursday, will report back..
Sounds awesome.
How much did the mic set you back? *calls ambulance in preparation for a cardiac arrest*
Dags
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Hey there perceive
The high gain switch on the VT737 might be able to give the pres the extra kick required to get sound from a ribbon mic.
[edited - just checked specs of VT737. "Microphone: Transformer balanced 850/2500 ohm, 0dB to +58dB" Guess that's the max. An earlier spec list also has the following: "For more mic gain, a front panel switch called High Gain zeroes out the negative feedback in the mic preamp circuit, resulting in an open loop gain increase of 18 dB (for a max total of 58 dB)."]
Just did a quick search and came up with this review of a sontronics ribbon mic being successfully used with a VT737 (going from the Avalon into a Neve desk may also had something to do with it)
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/page/shop/reviews/product_id/8645
Anyhoo, just thought I'd let you know
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perceive
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thanks for that - I am reasonably confident in the sontronics being able to do okay on the avalon - but I am likely to expand my ribbon collection and I have been lead to believe that the sontronics is different in that it uses phantom power amongst other things..needing less gain etc...Hey there perceive
The high gain switch on the VT737 might be able to give the pres the extra kick required to get sound from a ribbon mic.
Just did a quick search and came up with this review of a sontronics ribbon mic being successfully used with a VT737 (no indication if high gain was used though, and going from the Avalon into a Neve desk may also had something to do with it)
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/page/shop/reviews/product_id/8645
Anyhoo, just thought I'd let you know
Dags
However other ribbons may not act so "nicely".. but again thank you very much for the info!
Dags
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I edited my original text while you were posting - apologies.
It looks as though 58dB is the max output with high gain switch in.
Bummer, eh?
Good luck with your quest for getting your hands on a more suitable preamp!
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perceive
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I was pretty sure that 58dB was about it...
The preamp I have ordered is:
http://www.sebatron.com/products/cygnusx2.htm
Hopefully it will turn up Friday.
Dags
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I was pretty sure that 58dB was about it...
The preamp I have ordered is:
http://www.sebatron.com/products/cygnusx2.htm
Hopefully it will turn up Friday.
Sweeeeeeeeet
70dB should pretty much nail anything that gets plugged into it.
He used to have a whole lotta trippy experimental sound manglers available as well, but it looks like he's stopped making them.
Nothing like a new toy to get the creative juices flowing
Hope it arrives in time for you to spend all weekend noodling around with it perceive!
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perceive
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I am very much hoping so - unfortunately it won't turn up this week now - I really hope it is here by next weekend as I am not working. yay.Sweeeeeeeeet
70dB should pretty much nail anything that gets plugged into it.
He used to have a whole lotta trippy experimental sound manglers available as well, but it looks like he's stopped making them.
Nothing like a new toy to get the creative juices flowing
Hope it arrives in time for you to spend all weekend noodling around with it perceive!
Dags
dickiefunk
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Does anyone know what ribbon the T.Bone RM700 uses? Does it use the 2.5 or 6 micron ribbon?
I noticed the Cascade Fathead uses 2.5 and the Nady RSM 4 uses 6 and was wondering about the T.Bone RM700?
I noticed the Cascade Fathead uses 2.5 and the Nady RSM 4 uses 6 and was wondering about the T.Bone RM700?
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cusebassman
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The Karma K6 gets good press around here, but are Karma mics the same Chinese as everybody else's? They have a different body structure, so I would imagine they are made elsewhere, but I can't seem to find any info on Karma's website regarding this topic.
dickiefunk
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Karma K6 does indeed look nice but it's a little over my budget. I would prefer to buy a ribbon mic and either a dynamic or LDC. My budget is around $280-$300.
I noticed the design and packaging of the Cascade Fathead, Nady RSM4 and Thomann T.Bone RM700 is identical but the Fathead uses a 2.5 micron ribbon and the Nady uses a 6 micron ribbon. Am I right in thinking that the 2.5 micron ribbon in the Fathead would be better than the 6 micron ribbon in the Nady?
I noticed the design and packaging of the Cascade Fathead, Nady RSM4 and Thomann T.Bone RM700 is identical but the Fathead uses a 2.5 micron ribbon and the Nady uses a 6 micron ribbon. Am I right in thinking that the 2.5 micron ribbon in the Fathead would be better than the 6 micron ribbon in the Nady?
Doug H
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Well this probably won't help much
Apex 210 plugged straight into my converter, no pre. Luckily my converter is pretty quiet so I get enough signal, probably not enough for you pros, but enough. I use it to mic my 50w combio, so there is lots of power at the source.
Mic postiion is a bit of a balancing act because of the significant prox effect and my room is small and sounds like shit.
I ripped half the wind-screenng out of the mic, it does sound better, but is a little and granier IMO, granier isn't always bad
It rocks on my guitar, but I can tell it's not a $2000 mic, or think I can. I'd like to get something better.
Doug H
I'll be there
Just to add, I've read this and found it to be true. You don't get that riveting crunchy bite that a 57 will give you, which is why I read a lot about people using a ribbon with another mic on a guitar cab. Something I'm going to start playing around with now that the initial thrill of getting a "big" sound is over.
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They're a guitar shop in Cupertino, CA, a few blocks from where I work. They do some design work, then send it to China (I think) for manufacturing, get prototypes back, try them out, tweak them, etc. until they like what they have.
AFAIK, they are probably manufactured by Alctron, Shanghai shuaiYin, or 797 Audio, if that's the question. Are they identical to anybody else's mics... probably close, but not identical, just as our group buy mics are very similar to some Karma, Nady, Cascade, etc. mics.
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If you get one that actually has the thinner ribbon, then yes. See Michael Joly's comments about the Nady RSM-5 and the much-heavier-than-spec ribbons to get an idea of why I wouldn't count on it, though.
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i have no way of verifying the accuracy of the statement, but the guy in charge @ karma has said that they operate their "own" factory in china