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I remixed this one, it sounded sonicly like the tone in the "rock Song" thread.
So i put the kick drum up, and blended the guitar and bass better.
Fattened up the snare, and took care of the clash between the vocals and the hi hat.

Just want to thank you guys for your comments on the rock song thread too, all that critiquing is extremly helpful.

Also if you havent allready, you gotta check out that secrets of sonusman mixing revealed thread, that shit is super helpful.

 
Nice job as usual. I am listening as I type. So far, nothing is jumping out. I think it's solid!

Someone other than sonusman resurrected that thread, but it is useful as hell. I copied it so that I can take notes for the next time I mix!
 
Man, your gonna hate me, but I think you went too far - Now the guitar is kinda buried. It sounds like it is in the center this time as well.

I listened to "Spreading the Disease", and the guitar is kinda in the back there as well, so maybe it's just a taste thing?

Oh well, at least "John's a happy man"....LOL
 
I really like how this woman sings, especially the little things at 58 and 2:18 seconds. Those harmonies are an example of good songwriting. She sings with balls. I listened to this on my monitors and my computer speakers. I think the bass could come up a lot in the mix; it's weak. It sounds like you hi-cut quite a bit of the necessary frequencies to make it sound tighter at the expense of what the bass track is supposed to accomplish. I'm curious about the Amplitude plugin you use. Do you record guitar clean or distorted? Does how you record the guitar matter? I don't mean to hijack your thread with my own questions, sorry!

Keep up the great work Finster!
 
Nice and solid job here. Sonically quite balanced mix. But the balance between the instruments doesn't quite cut it imo. At the moment the guitar(s) and drums are fighting a bit. Sounds like you are trying to achieve big drums and big guitars at the same time. That is quite hard job to do ;)
Usually in a music like this the guitar(s) tend to be the big ones and drums suffer the consequences. I would suggest you to at least give it a shot to bring those guitars a bit more front and give them some more aggression too. In my opinion the drums overpower instead of guitars. On the other hand, maby you want it to be this way :)
I would also give the song a bit more "meat" down there. Overall I think the song would benefit from a bit more aggressive low end. Completely achievable at the mastering stage.
Those were my humble opinions :o
 
Nice! so what im hearing is "hey the drums and vocals are perfect but the guitars suck".

I can live with that.

Ill do some quick little fader bumps tonight and repost it then as well.

Thanks for the reviews guys. :D

-Finster
 
I've been listening too it a few times now, and I'd say just a subtle bump up on the guitars and it would be perfect - I like this better than the rock song (both are good btw)

G-
 
NL5 said:
I've been listening too it a few times now, and I'd say just a subtle bump up on the guitars and it would be perfect - I like this better than the rock song (both are good btw)

G-

Ok great, im all over it.
Thanks man. :cool: :D
 
FattMusiek said:
I think the bass could come up a lot in the mix; it's weak. It sounds like you hi-cut quite a bit of the necessary frequencies to make it sound tighter at the expense of what the bass track is supposed to accomplish. I'm curious about the Amplitude plugin you use. Do you record guitar clean or distorted? Does how you record the guitar matter? I don't mean to hijack your thread with my own questions, sorry!

Keep up the great work Finster!

About the bass: The bass player playes with his fingers-with a soft but very consistent style. So really you cant add pick attack eq to a frequency that dosent exist. As opposed to what you assumed (that i cut the high frequencies)
I didnt. I boosted them big time, but there isnt really any frequency content there.

As far as the guitars go>A Tube amp, a ribbon mic, to a tube pre amp to the computer.

No sweat on the hijacking bro, its all audio.

Thanks for the review bro. :cool: :)

-Finster
 
i think it sounds good man
ride has been said
only thing i'd say is that the china kinda sticks out to me
don't think i like that china

she sticks some notes almost un-naturally hard
i gotta ask in the ahhhhhs, is that tuned?
or just that kinda female vox style?

i guess it's maby a touch thin at low volumes.
better den me.
 
giraffe said:
she sticks some notes almost un-naturally hard
i gotta ask in the ahhhhhs, is that tuned?
or just that kinda female vox style?

She dosent allow me to use Autotune.
The ahhh's thats me underneath singing the harmonies.
And i on the otherhand dont mind the auto tune so much. :)
I actually nailed the part, but liked the effect that auto tune gave to it.

Thanks for the listen. ;)

-Finster
 
Production wise, I think it sounds pretty good. The guitars sound fine to me at the level they're at, and the performance was spot on. I don't know why people think they suck. I think they sound really good. The drums sound great to me (especially the kick).

To me the weakest link is the writing and the vocals. The chorus was kinda boring --- just riffing on the I chord throughout --- kind of anti-climactic. And the rest of the song just seemed a little lukewarm--nothing terribly original. The vocal sounded a little weak for the style. Sounded too "trained." But then again, I'm not a fan of Evanescence (or however you spell their name). So maybe their fans will like it more.

Anyway, these are just my opinions. I think the recording sounded pretty darn good, except for the vocal sound. It stuck out a little bit to me, but I can't really say what it is. I dunno .. maybe too much reverb.
 
Remixed

Ok heres the remix, i think its a little better now, what do you think?

 
Yeah, alot better imo at least :)
Much more in balance now. Wider, bigger and better :D
But this time I think that toms are bit dominating? (Eg at 0:35-0:50 and around 2:00), am I just imaginating or? :p
Other than that, for my ears at least, it starts to sound quite finished.
By lowering drums you got it bit hotter too I think, quite nice mastering there too. I _might_ add still a bit more meat there, but can't say. Maby, baby not :rolleyes:
 
hey finster....did you use iTunes to encode the 2nd mix? I don't like what that thing does to cymbals
 
LemonTree said:
hey finster....did you use iTunes to encode the 2nd mix? I don't like what that thing does to cymbals

As a matter of fact i didnt.
I used Audion.
At 256k i think.
 
yeah there's a distinct difference for the better in the 2nd mix
 
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