Regular CD format?

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Hey guys, I'm guessing that this is a pretty newbe'ish question so I'll post it here...

I have an older Sony Reference DVD/CD Player (Model VDP-S7000). While this unit still rivels todays best units that are out there, it's rather limited on the format types it can play.

It seems that before when I'd burn a mix down to a CD in wav. format or whatever I would be able to listen to it on my main stereo system and play it through the Sony unit.

I'm not sure if I've been selecting the wrong format or what, but all of a sudden the disk won't play in my Sony unit.......they play in everything else (Car and my other stereo's)

So I guess the question would be: What is the most comon format that a CD can be burned into to make it compatable on most systems?

Thanks,
Rick
 
I just burn them as a regular audio cd, and they play on my stuff. The disc brand might matter, so if you've switched brands, maybe that could cause the problem. Also, the program, and how it finalizes might be of some issue. Did you switch the program you use to burn with?

Media brand, and programs are the only things I have dealt with that have ever given me some trouble this way. Hope you get it sorted out.
 
make sure that your wavs are 16/44.1 beforte burning to CD.

Daav
 
Make sure the program you are using will finalize the CD in Redbook standard.

Most older CD players were not set up to playback CDR. Make sure it's finalized Redbook, and you should be fine.
 
Yeah, I've got the 16/44 thing down...

I'm using AA 1.5 to convert my tracks/songs down to 16/44, and then I usually save one as an MP3 for uploading to my Soundclick page, and the other I save as a .wav file.......but there are like 4 or 5 different .wav types in the drop down menu when I hit "save media type as".

Here's the options I have in my drop down menu:

Windows PCM
DVI/IMA ADPCM
Microsoft ADPCM

There's also a Windows Meida Audio which is a .wma type

So I guess of these 4, which is the most comon format to use?

Thanks,
Rick
 
Ok, I just did another test CD, this one I converted the track/song into each of the catagories to test and see if any of them worked....

The two that worked were Microsoft ADPCM and the PCM WAV.....the WMA didn't work and the DVI/IMA one wouldn't even load up on the burner

So I must have had a bad CD or something on that first go around.......:confused:

Thanks,
Rick
 
Very possible. I burned a mix that played everywhere except my truck which is my main "listening room" :rolleyes:
go figure.
 
wma is window's version of mp3. It's a compressed format, not what you want to save to.

An audio CD, the ones that play in boom boxes and car stereos need to be burned to redbook standard from wav files. You are not actually burning wav files on the cd.

In order to burn wav files on a CD, you would need to burn a DATA CD. But that wouldn't play in your car.
 
Farview said:
wma is window's version of mp3. It's a compressed format, not what you want to save to.

An audio CD, the ones that play in boom boxes and car stereos need to be burned to redbook standard from wav files. You are not actually burning wav files on the cd.

In order to burn wav files on a CD, you would need to burn a DATA CD. But that wouldn't play in your car.
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I believe the extention for music cd files is .cda, correct?
 
Ok, now I'm starting to get a bit confused.....not that that's anything new :o

When I look under all of the properties of the tracks that have been burned to my CD, they all say that they are "CDA" file types. Now I'm assuming that the burning software is automatically converting this durring the burning process?

I'm not seeing the CDA file extension under the "Save as file type" in my drop down menu at all.

It looks like of the few types of extensions I can use the Windows PCM extension retains the larger bite size file (10.2 MB for a 30 second clip) .....and the others are much smaller. So, would the Windows PCM extention/format be the best to save finsihed tracks/songs down to on my hard drive, or is there a better way to do it? ....possibly burning directly to the CD from my Adobe Audition 1.5??

Thanks for all the great help thus far guys!

Rick

PS - Fairview - I believe I may have spoken with you on Friday in regards to some drum info / loops / old Chicago recordings :)
 
WERNER 1 said:
Ok, now I'm starting to get a bit confused.....not that that's anything new :o

When I look under all of the properties of the tracks that have been burned to my CD, they all say that they are "CDA" file types. Now I'm assuming that the burning software is automatically converting this durring the burning process?

I'm not seeing the CDA file extension under the "Save as file type" in my drop down menu at all.

It looks like of the few types of extensions I can use the Windows PCM extension retains the larger bite size file (10.2 MB for a 30 second clip) .....and the others are much smaller. So, would the Windows PCM extention/format be the best to save finsihed tracks/songs down to on my hard drive, or is there a better way to do it? ....possibly burning directly to the CD from my Adobe Audition 1.5??

Thanks for all the great help thus far guys!

Rick

PS - Fairview - I believe I may have spoken with you on Friday in regards to some drum info / loops / old Chicago recordings :)
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Always save as Windows PCM (.wav) at 16/44

I think .cda files are simply pointers to the WAV data on the CD, they just tell the CD player where the track starts on the CD, and also its track title/artist, etc. But I could be wrong. Either way, you don't save .cda files, they're created when burning the CD.

You should be able to add your tracks to the CD Project View in Audition 1.5, and then burn them from there. Audition should convert them before burning.

You could also use Nero or CD Architect. I always use CD Architect and never have any problems with CDs not playing.
 
WERNER 1 said:
When I look under all of the properties of the tracks that have been burned to my CD, they all say that they are "CDA" file types. Now I'm assuming that the burning software is automatically converting this durring the burning process?
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CDA is just a 'place keeper'. It doesn't contain audio, it just tells the player where the audio is.

WERNER 1 said:
It looks like of the few types of extensions I can use the Windows PCM extension retains the larger bite size file (10.2 MB for a 30 second clip) .....and the others are much smaller. So, would the Windows PCM extention/format be the best to save finsihed tracks/songs down to on my hard drive, or is there a better way to do it? ....possibly burning directly to the CD from my Adobe Audition 1.5??
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Windows PCM, wav, broadcast wav and aiff are all the same type of uncompressed data. Any of these file types will work for you. Your CD burning software will turn the wav/aif/etc... file into CD audio. It does this seemlessly, that's why so many people don't realize the difference between a wav file and a playable CD.

WERNER 1 said:
PS - Fairview - I believe I may have spoken with you on Friday in regards to some drum info / loops / old Chicago recordings :)
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That was me. Howdy.
 
WERNER 1 said:
It looks like of the few types of extensions I can use the Windows PCM extension retains the larger bite size file (10.2 MB for a 30 second clip) .....
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How are you reading that? A 1 minute stereo 44.1 kHz/16 Bit file should be about 10 MB. So if you have a 30 sec clip, it should be around 5 MB.
 
Thanks again guys for all of the input and info!! :)

I'm reading the 10.2 in the description that comes up when I hold my curser over the file.......in that description it gives the "size" of the file, and it says 10.2 MB

uh.........I'm officially smokin' crack I guess........ I just listened to the clip and it's exaclty one minute long :o

You guys don't miss a lick do ya!?!?! :D

Thanks,
Rick
 
It may not be "CD" problem at all..... It just maybe something wierd in my CD player...

I recorded another clip last night and burned just that one track to the CD for listening in my Van and on my home stereo(the one with the Sony...).....it wouldn't play again. So then I tried it on my even older JVC CD player that I use to practice with (It's from about 1986 :eek: ) and it worked just fine :confused: ....

I think that the sony has trouble reading just one track by it's self........espcially when it's a very short track.

I burned it onto another CD, but this time with a few other short clips and it worked just fine...

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

Thanks,
Rick
 
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