Reference Battle.....Auratone vs NS10?

[Blue Bear Sound]

No Tom, that was yellow snow!

 

[Atterion]

No Tom, that was yellow snow!

I loved that song. "Watch out where the sled dogs go..."

Give me a pair of Events over any Yamahahahaha or Horror-Tone

 

[giraffe]

have fun finding ns-10s anyway
(nobody listens)

THEY DON'T MAKE THEM ANY MORE
dumb ass

 

[Blue Bear Sound]

I loved that song. "Watch out where the sled dogs go..."

Actually - the line was
"Watch out where the Huskies go... and don't you eat that yellow snow!"

 

[Middleman]

Auratones were the reference monitors of the disco era... enough said.

 

[masteringhouse]

No Tom, that was yellow snow!

Yellow snow cones ...

BTW I posted this before. Once you get tired of using NS-10s as monitors they make pretty good kick drum mics. Just take out the tweeter and plug the woofer in a good preamp that you can crank up.

 

[Atterion]

Actually - the line was
"Watch out where the Huskies go... and don't you eat that yellow snow!"

Yup, you're right!!!
It has been a long time since I've heard that song (at least 10-15 years anyways). Frank was a genuine madman. Ever heard the "Black Page"???

 

[CoolCat]

Keep It Stupid Simple

Yellow Cones:
Kevlar woven or thinner Kev with seal-film,
KRK V vs. KRK RP series...yeas?

the small "crap" Kevlar Sony....
Kevlar's at Ultimate/Best Buy for $25each.

I heard they're the BEST thing UNDER $26!!!!

I highly recommend them.

I can confirm they are Yellow speakers too!
This was done by removing the protective silish material and pulling on the non-conductive frame cover support which attaches itself using 4 small non-conductive pogo pins and then placing these shields onto a flat surface.
and whooolala!! Yellow speakers!!!
(Kevlar-with seal glue to paper cone type..not thick woven type)

Also, I saw a picture in Guitar Player
where
.............NIRVANA......................
had YELLOW SPEAKERS in the studio!!!
not dropping names...but NIRVANA..... might have used Yellow speakers!

In the back ground was a poster on the wall of the BEATLES too!!!

so Yellowspeakers> NIRVANA> BEatles poster!! PRO ENGINEERING ROOM!
MAGAZINE PICTURES!!!! oh yeah...fhkng got me pumped up!!

don't get caught up with labels... go by speaker cone color!!

KEEP IT STUPID SIMPLE!!

$25 each!! you can buy a whole bunch of Yellow speakers the
same color as the ones Nirvana might have used!!

unless your just determined to get white ones...thats cool too.

.

 

[gtrmac]

NS-10's were used with the philosophy being that they were similar to a type of speaker that a "typical" consumer might have. These days many consumer systems are actually better than NS-10's so that idea has become obsolete. Also, when they were used in professional studios the engineer had a "main" monitor system to check eq on, the NS-10 is not flat so it's useless for this. For instance, you often need to check the mix in the low frequency. This is especially important now since a lot of consumer systems have subwoofers. The NS-10 and for that matter, the auratone, won't tell you much about this since neither can reproduce anything in the low end.

The same is true with the Auratones. Most people's car system is better than those horrible things these days. Again, a lot of cars even have subs so what use will a speaker be that onlu goes down to 100 Hz?

I agree that you should rethink your strategy. Get the best speaker that you can so you can really hear what your mix sounds like.

 

[Atterion]

This is especially important now since a lot of consumer systems have subwoofers. The NS-10 and for that matter, the auratone, won't tell you much about this since neither can reproduce anything in the low end.

But in all fairness, almost no monitoring system will give you an accurate representation of what a mix will sound like with a sub, unless the monitoring system has a sub also. But this is a mute point, because even if the end-consumer is using a sub, the mix still needs to translate without a sub (and it has been my experience that if it translates well without a sub, it'll be fine if not better with the sub), so IMHO forget about the sub (as far as catering for it, But it is still not bad to have in the monitoring chain for checking mixes, or for dealing with LFE channels obviously (i.e. surround sound)).

 

[CoolCat]

sub below zero

But in all fairness, almost no monitoring system will give you an accurate representation of what a mix will sound like with a sub, unless the monitoring system has a sub also. But this is a mute point, because even if the end-consumer is using a sub, the mix still needs to translate without a sub (and it has been my experience that if it translates well without a sub, it'll be fine if not better with the sub), so IMHO forget about the sub (as far as catering for it, But it is still not bad to have in the monitoring chain for checking mixes, or for dealing with LFE channels obviously (i.e. surround sound)).

i disagree, if you can't hear it you don't know whats there.
if you don't have a sub and if your not getting much low-end with your monitors.....
when your mix is played in your buddy joe-consumer sub setup..
you may get the flabby-Ass sound. If this happens you can just convince them their home stereo sounds like sht and they need to upgrade.

or maybe someday everyone will go back to Mono-small speakers and we
can just nearfield on Auratone 4" car speakers!

also remember as we increase volume Treble and Low End will magnify
over the mids V-slope (now you have even more bass you didn't know was there).

if your doing acoustic bluegrass, a sub may not be a big deal.

fhk i really haven't a clue...just a spin on this topic

i fought the sub idea too because it's another damn thing to work in.
and what about the room? sub and room... bass traps?

 

[masteringhouse]

i disagree, if you can't hear it you don't know whats there.
if you don't have a sub and if your not getting much low-end with your monitors.....

I agree, either you need a sub or a full range monitoring system. That was always an issue with the NS-10s. While they were good for judging how mids would translate, they were pretty useless at the bottom end. A producer once told me that he looks at how far the woofers were moving to determine if there is enough low end on NS-10s. It think that it would be better to actually hear it.