Recordng__distorted__guitar

[tyso06]

Instead of recording the distorted guiar sound from the amp, is it possible to record distorted guitar this way.
Thankyou!

guitar-----effects pedal--------DI Box----------XLR insert on mixer.

 

[Ripthorn]

possible, yes. The quality of the sound will depend on your instrument, distortion and quality of di box, but yeah, nothing says you can't do it. The only concern is the impedance difference between a guitar and an xlr jack. If you have a line in on your mixer (which you should) you should use that, unless your di box matches the impedance for you (which I think it also should, could be wrong).

 

[Rokket]

The sound will be a little in your face and really hard to get to sound good in the mix. But I've heard some direct in recordings that sounded pretty decent because they were using pods or V-amps that were properly tweeked.

Most of those Digitech guitar processors don't sound very good recorded. They were designed for your amp and to be used live. They tend to be noisy (lots of hiss).

 

[Corndog]

Sansamp? Pod? Are they options for you? My Tascam DP-01 has all that crap built in but I prefer to piss off my neighbors with my Super Twin 'cause I can!!!

 

[starbuck26]

http://www.badmuckingfastard.com/sound/slipperman.html#contents

there's an audio file called DI guitar madness. you should listen to that.

 

[aviv]

Your not going to get that big fat amp sound people work so hard to get. Try it, it wont hurt.

 

[tyso06]

thanks for all the feedback guys, but what do you think is the best ideo to record distorted guitar without using an amp.

I'm thinking of doing it like this:

electric guitar-----effect pedals------DI Box------pre amp------mixer

Can someone just please figure out the best possible way to record distorted guitar without recording off an amp.

Thanks!

 

[PhiloBeddoe]

If you don't have an amp option try a POD or similar equipment built for that purpose. Other options are Sansamp and Vox Tonelab though I haven't used either. People DO make records using PODs, although most people prefer real amps.

You need something like a POD to do the speaker emulation. Recording an effect pedal directly in will probably sound bad.

 

[starbuck26]

Can someone just please figure out the best possible way to record distorted guitar without recording off an amp.

Thanks!

Ok dude. Obviously you did not read the slipperman bible. Nor did you listen to the "DI guitar madness" file at the end.

Because if you did, you would have listened to a great engineer spend an hour going out of his mind trying to find a tone coming off a DI box that didn't sound like 'cock and balls.' At the very least, you would figure out that both micing an amp and going direct are equally maddening, and that the DI method, according to the great slipperman, is essentially a low-yield system. Which means that it takes an incredible amount of work to get usable guitar tones, and then, maybe.

People spend their lives doing this, man. What makes you think someone can "just please figure out the best possible way" and then tell you?

Spend a few hours fucking around and see what you get.

Keep in mind the easiest thing to do is pack it up and go play mini golf.

 

[Emperor !!!]

Guitar > pedals > amp simulation (like a POD) > line in on recorder (DAW, Mixer, soundcard, audio interface)

be careful with time based pedal effects, since amp simulators, as far as I know, don´t have effects loops.

in case you don´t have the dough for a simulator, then you can try DI´ing the signal from the pedals and then process it with an amp modeler software.

the results?
how to get an unbelievable guitar tone?
I don´t know, that´s for you to find out.

 

[giantsizeflower]

I have a Hughes & Kettner Red Box, and it takes the load from the amp and is essentially a speaker simulator. I really like the tone I get from it, but it still does not have the air that comes from miking the cabinet.

It has variable impedance and a balanced XLR out. It is really convenient and once you get everything else recorded, it will do just fine.

Again, nothing like miking the marshall cab with the 100 watts of tube tone thundering into a couple well placed mics, but it will do for the home studio just fine I say.

 

[Emperor !!!]

nothing like miking the marshall cab with the 100 watts of tube tone .

Or a Fender Champ!!

I have a Hughes & Kettner Red Box

is it like the THD Hot Plate and the Marshall Power brake?

 

[Russtopher]

You can always go with a software amp like the SimuAnalogue suite, Dirthead, or a combo of Wagner Sharp/Voxengo Boogex if you want a rectifier-type sound.

Like everyone else has said.... almost none of those options will sound as good as a mic'd amp.

Re: slipperman DI madness - yeah that did indeed sound like "caaaahk and ballz" But - with DAW based plugins, impulses, etc you can definitely get a more usable DI tone.

 

[giantsizeflower]

is it like the THD Hot Plate and the Marshall Power brake?[/QUOTE]

Kinda, except the Red Box does not let you record without a speaker cabinet. It is an inline thing, so you connect your speaker out into the Red Box, and the Red Box has 2 outputs, 1 for the mixer, 1 for the cabinet.



So you will still have some volume out of the cabinet, but you won't have to push as hard to get a nice tone from the Red Box. It simulates a 2x12 or a 4x12 pretty nicely I think.

 

[suprstar]

Keep in mind the easiest thing to do is pack it up and go play mini golf.

That's a crock, have you SEEN some of the courses out there??

 

[starbuck26]

That's a crock, have you SEEN some of the courses out there??

i'm sure there are. I gave up mini golf in 1999. happy people make me sick to my stomach. lot of happy people on the mini golf circuit.

 

[jack1234]

Recording Guitar

Just go with a Sansamp direct. They sound great direct then add a touch of reverb and your good to go.