Recording this piano in this room

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Anyone have suggestions for this? I have a client that wants to record her son playing his piano. He is pretty much amazing by the way. I have never recorded a piano.

Dynamics? LDC's? Both? Subkick? lol!

I can bring 8 2'X4'X4" Rock wool panels to the site.
 

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I've tried a bunch of mics on uprights....but recent;y I tried my Cascade Fat Head ribbon, just for shits-n-giggles...and WOW, it sounded better than any of the other mics I ever tried.

You can use a couple at each end...or even just one, turned sideways so the figure-8 goes horizontally. That's what I tried, about 8 inches up from the open lid.

If it all sounds too confined/boxy...you could always take off the front panel and open up the piano, same as how a tuner would do it. then you could also angle the top lid in different positions to direct the sound out.
 
In my experience every upright piano is a bit different--if ever there was a case for trying positions and listening, this is it.

First of, I much prefer to record pianos in stereo so we'll be talking two microphones. Unless you want to re-arrange your room (and break your back) we can discount putting the mics behind the piano which can be a good location.

Therefore, let's try having the top lid open and miking from there.

I'd be using small diaphram condensers (if only because of the need to get them into small spaces) and probably have one over the bass strings and one over the treble end, each about a quarter to a third of the way in from the sides. I'd place the mics so the capsules were just inside the case of the piano. I find this give a natural sound with just enough of the hammer attack to sound right. However, moving the mics even an inch or two can give a big difference in the sound, so play a bit before you record.

That said, there are all sorts of different ideas about placement, each with a slightly different sound. THIS SITE has a good diagram (from Shure) down near the bottom which lists at least six options and gives the pros and cons of each.

Good luck! I wish MY son had some musical ability!

Bob
 
Thanks for the recommendations guys! I kinda figured a good amount of trial and error will be necessary here. I have two AT45's, a CAD M179, and a RODE NT1a, that I will mess around with. Hell, I might even put that subkick in there. lol. I was thinking of getting a ribbon mic anyway but do not have a quality preamp as of yet. I keep hearing that is needed to get a good level from them. I'll look into that more.

Hell, I may just post a thread with various samples of my results just for shits-n-giggles.

Thanks again!

Jimmy
 
When I was looking to record my piano (baby grand, not upright), I demo-ed a few mics. I tried Earthworks, Royer, and Rode. You'd think that Rode wouldn't have even made the list, but a pair of NT2As gave me the sound I was looking for with very low self noise. It took hours to find the right spots to mic and it was different for each mic.

Take it like I learned how to drive - trial and error.

Also, keep in mind that the sound of the piano is not just from the inside of it. The whole body reverberates and pointing a mic at a corner 18 inches away may be better than dropping one inside - especially if the player doesn't know how to control the release of the damper pedal.
 
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