Thanks, but I never asked your permission.
Did i say i can't handle some damn shitty noise? Define "damn shitty noise" first. Different for each.
So go ahead. You have my permission to do so without my permission.
Thanks, but I never asked your permission.
I mean...click the links in my sig...Define "damn shitty noise" first.
The argument I've heard most often against this is that if the song is still evolving, then it's not ready to record, and you should figure all that stuff out and then hit the big red button. According to this line of reasoning, if you don't suck at your instrument, then you should be able to get a "perfect" take again without much trouble.
Why do you seem to always reference money...or "breaking the bank"...in these discussions?
Did someone say you needed to do that, and you're bothered by it...or are you bothered by not doing it?
I also think you're misinterpreting my meaning. I don't see why you would have to go purely virtual in order to do that...to make changes....?
I'm not talking about capturing the source as-is and then not touching it later with any processing.
Also...there's not set "rules" about how you do your tracking. I never suggested that...rather it's simply about following good form...good techniques...but you have a lot of freedom in how you approach that.
To me, the whole focus in the "source" is about getting the best sound, and as closest to the right sound that I want.
Otherwise...there's nothing wrong with applying processing after that during the mix stage.
I do all kinds of adjustments to my source recordings. Never had a problem with making guitar tracks brighter/darker, more bit/less bite, or changing my mind about overall tone...but I like to work with a good amount of the production already in mind when I track (nothing written in stone, but a fairly solid idea of what I want)...so any changes I make, work cohesively with the original source tracks. I also tend to commit to things maybe more than most people do these days, and even when in the DAW, I will delete tracks or part of tracks when I decide on something.
For the times when things just aren't working...I go back to the tracking, rather than trying to process something into submission.
For me...the best and most fun part of music production has always been the tracking. It's what makes recording interesting. Hearing the interaction between the tracks as I add them...and feeling that in real time as I'm playing and recording the next track.
I also thoroughly enjoy working with the mics, dialing in the amps, tuning a drum kit...etc...and in my case, working with the tape deck, loading the machine, watching them reels spins. It's all a very hands-on, "real" experience.
I already spend way too much time later on at the DAW in virtual reality land......and I can't wait to get out of there and to a new tracking session. It's just what I really like doing.
Yeah for many of us, recording is part of the writing process, and often the initial "demo" just gets added to, edited, and worked with til it ends up being the finished process. It can be really nice to be able to tweak things without having to retrack. It can also be a lot easier when editing/comping parts if you can do that with the raw "dry" sound before it hits any effects.This is home recording.com, a majority of us suck at our instruments (compared to "professionals").
I was fantasizing about the kind of technology we have today back in 95, and while we're not quite to the completely virual studio situation I had envisioned, it's really close and I'm really happy with where I'm at right now.I lived in a world of no-undo. I refuse to go back.
Yeah for many of us, recording is part of the writing process, and often the initial "demo" just gets added to, edited, and worked with til it ends up being the finished process. It can be really nice to be able to tweak things without having to retrack. It can also be a lot easier when editing/comping parts if you can do that with the raw "dry" sound before it hits any effects.
I mean...click the links in my sig...
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Aw, you're making me blush.Ok, that's some damn noise. But i can't find the "shitty".
"Natural" and "well-recorded" are not necessarily the same thing.
That's cool. I've been hoping you would post something over here. You have a lot of cool old analog studio gear. I'd be curious to know if I can hear the difference between that and the digital stuff most of us are using.
No, but neither can the guitarist, so... Honestly, I don't think that style is actually supposed to have much in the way of definabled grooves. Like the drums aren't there for timing so much as just adding to the racket. That recording is actually a little hi-if for "industry standard" in that genre, but I had fun making it nasty and trashy and kind of overwhelming. Not exactly much of a challenge, but it was fun.(can the drummer count rythm? )
miro - I haven't done any kind of poll, but there are a lot of folks around here using drum VSTis and maybe not so many yet still I think a good percentage doing amp sims. Heck, there's a solid chunk of our members who record vocals over downloaded beats.
I'm a EV guy .... I have several of the Co7s and also the Co9 .... both are better than 57s to my ears and CHEAP!!The guitar in that Bestial recording was an actual mic (EV Co7 - a great mic that nobody ever talks about, can do anything a 57/58 can do except a little more transparent and a lot hotter)