Recording Live off the floor

[wondercrush]

Hi all! Hope you can give some suggestions to a problem Wondercrush is having recording.

We are recording in an old beer freezer, appx. 600 sq. ft. We are recording "live off the floor", using 2 old Adats (and please don't reply with it's the Adats, there have got to be ways around this problem).

Here's a pic of our set-up:

The amps are facing the corners... The Sennheiser is an MD-421.

The problem we are having is getting way too much bass guitar leakage into the drum mics. So much so, that when doing a preliminary listen mix, we don't need to turn up the bass.

We have tried isolating in that, we have thrown a rug over the amp, with insulation boards around it. Next Tuesday we are planning on putting the two cabinets next to each other in a "v" formation, with a carpet in front of it that is rounded. Are we on the right track with that?

We are actually getting a really good sound, except for that bleed! We can't go direct because we got no headphones... this is super DIY...

Help?!

 

[TexRoadkill]

Buy a freakin pair of headphones so you can record direct. That really is the only option apart from moving the bassist and amp out of the room. But then the drummer wont be able to hear them without heaphones.

Headphones are small and easy to steal if you're that broke

 

[John Byrne]

A few ideas.

Try moving the drummer with his back against the short wall on the right (facing the guitarist).

Which mic is the bass bleeding into? Try to move the mic for the minimal amount of bass bleed or try to improvise with a screen behind the troublesome mic so that the bass is cut off.

A bit more radical, if you are going to digitally mix the tracks later on a computer. Set up and record a few seconds of the drum mics without the drummer playing, but with the bass guitar playing - this gives the signal level of the bass bleed on the drum tracks. Record you song. On your computer, make a copy of the bass guitar on a spare track and set the level to match that of the bass bleed on your drum track. Invert the bass track copy and mix it with the drum track - this should go a long way to removing the bass bleed.

The best solution... as the man said
"Buy a freakin pair of headphones so you can record direct. "

Regards,

John

 

[MiXit-G]

Direct Direct! if you dont like the sound then dubb it later or run the di'd bass track into his bass rig and record it later.