Recording Guitar/Vocals

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What's a good way of recording vocals with guitar? We thought about recording the vocals and guitar and then re-recording them separately. We would be using the original recording for a guide. My thought is that I want flexibility during mixing to work the guitar and vocals by themselves. I have done this method before, but thought I would ask for suggestions on other tried methods. I know people record vocals and guitar together all the time, and use them like that, but I don’t seem to end up with good results.
 
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What's a good way of recording vocals with guitar? We thought about recording the vocals and guitar and then re-recording them separately. We would be using the original recording for a guide. My thought is that I want flexibility during mixing to work the guitar and vocals by themselves. I have done this method before, but thought I would ask for suggestions on other tried methods. I know people record vocals and guitar together all the time, and use them like that, but I don’t seem to end up with good results.
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Heya, and welcome to the site. No new suggestions for you... just wanted to say I do it exactly the same way. Record together as a guide, then record separately because I never like the way it comes out.
 
jcaro10894 said:
What's a good way of recording vocals with guitar? We thought about recording the vocals and guitar and then re-recording them separately. We would be using the original recording for a guide. My thought is that I want flexibility during mixing to work the guitar and vocals by themselves. I have done this method before, but thought I would ask for suggestions on other tried methods. I know people record vocals and guitar together all the time, and use them like that, but I don’t seem to end up with good results.
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I'm not a pro....but I record them together all the time too, and it usually turns out good for me. I use about 4-5 mics though when I do record. Stereo mic the guitar, 1 mic on the vocals and then 2 overheads. It usually captures it quite nicely...atleast for me it does.
 
jcaro10894 said:
What's a good way of recording vocals with guitar? We thought about recording the vocals and guitar and then re-recording them separately. We would be using the original recording for a guide. My thought is that I want flexibility during mixing to work the guitar and vocals by themselves. I have done this method before, but thought I would ask for suggestions on other tried methods. I know people record vocals and guitar together all the time, and use them like that, but I don’t seem to end up with good results.
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I do this all the time. I put a stereo pair on the guitar and a vocal mic for the singing. There is some bleed over but you still retain enough separation to create nice mixes.
 
I've tried it like you and ChiliDude :D and have had nice results.

I've also set up with a stereo mic bar on the guitar and one for vox and blend to taste.

And I've had surprisingly clean results putting one LCD (in my case it was an AT4050) at the singer and play with the angle. I set the mic in cardioid and angle it upward more towards the singer at roughly 65 to 70% vox, 30 to 35% guitar. I've used this when a good warm dry sound was what we were after. Takes a little time to get the mic set right but its an option.

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I record both simultaneously with 2 SDC's on the guitar and a LDC for the vocal. Use the 3:1 rule to minimize the bleed.
 
I am not familiar with the 3:1 rule, can you tell me more? Thanks everyone for the information. Looks like I will need to do some more experimenting with mic placement.
 
jcaro10894 said:
I am not familiar with the 3:1 rule, can you tell me more? Thanks everyone for the information. Looks like I will need to do some more experimenting with mic placement.
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The 3:1 rule is a naturally occuring ratio (like Pi is in math) that happens in home recording. Some applications are:

1. For every $3 spent on equipment, $1 is recouped upon sale of such equipment.
2. For 3 musicians on any 1 take of a recording, 1 will screw up and make a mistake.

3. For every 3 songs recorded, 1 will be passable at best


and on etc.........................................
 
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