
Ford Van
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But this thread isn't about "major label bands".
Duh!
Duh!
treymonfauntre said:i disagree with the "if you can't cut it in the studio then you can't cut it live".
There's a HUGE difference between playing loosely live and adding a bit of improvisional energy, and having marginal skills.treymonfauntre said:i disagree with the "if you can't cut it in the studio then you can't cut it live". playing live has a certain degree of energy in the air that you simply can't reproduce by listening to a recorded drum track and trying to play along. its so much better to time pauses and to hit your strings a little bit harder and play a little bit faster when there are other people doing it along with you.
but then again maybe we're not talking about the same style of music i'm talking about, who knows?
Cloneboy Studio said:Moral of the story: IF YOU WANNA PLAY ON YOUR OWN ALBUM, DON'T SUCK.
Cloneboy Studio said:Spend a couple of years behind a mixing console in a recording studio for 40+ hours a week and see if you hold this same attitude.
Ford Van said:Been there, done that. Still don't agree with you.
While I do appreciate your enthusiasm toward this matter, I'm going to have to disagree with you on the above.Cloneboy Studio said:Trust me: if you can't cut it in the studio you sure as hell cannot cut it live.
No you can't. Don't believe me? Try recording one a show and listen to the playback.
I can tell you this, though, if I went in to record my music with you and the finished product didn't have ME PLAYING on it, I'd be exceedingly upset. And any musician worth their salt could tell, I promise.Cloneboy Studio said:That's cool. Some people have a hands-off approach.
Ask yourself this though: what would you do if you were recording a large budget, major label album and the suits told you to replace some performances? What then?
Keep in mind that the label might throw you 6 albums a year, and the client maybe--just maybe--one job every 2-3 years....
dkerwood said:I can tell you this, though, if I went in to record my music with you and the finished product didn't have ME PLAYING on it, I'd be exceedingly upset. And any musician worth their salt could tell, I promise.
Adam P said:Not to sound like a dick, but if this is the case, then why did you ask your original question? You would be pissed if you were replaced, but you're wondering if its ok to replace your bandmates' performances? That's fucked, if you ask me.
Welcome to my internal conflict, folks. lol... Also a bit of an internal dialogue as I'm deciding what to do. I'm just posting thoughts and reactions to points that you guys bring up, as well as things that occur to me. I don't mean for any of these posts to be a certainty, I'm just posting what I think as I think it.Adam P said:Not to sound like a dick, but if this is the case, then why did you ask your original question? You would be pissed if you were replaced, but you're wondering if its ok to replace your bandmates' performances? That's fucked, if you ask me.
dkerwood said:I can tell you this, though, if I went in to record my music with you and the finished product didn't have ME PLAYING on it, I'd be exceedingly upset. And any musician worth their salt could tell, I promise.
Good advice all around. All things being equal, I do sort of prefer recording solo. It tends to go a lot faster and with a lot fewer takes. The only thing I don't really care for is overdubbing my own backup vocals... I'm so in tune to the sound of my voice that it freaks me out to hear two of me.rayc said:Hi,
If the bassist won't come back & record then YOU record BUT tell her that she'll have to come back & do her own takes or yours will stand.
With the BITS of drumming - do a take of the bits & play them in & out to the drummer. Ask her/him to consider recording some ODs in the same ilk or to record a whole new take &/or mix all three together etc.
Open your mind, heart & hands. The emsemble should bring a chemistry that MAY overcome technical difficulties.
Otherwise consider going back to solo recording - it's much less stressfull & doesn't require a committee to decide what beer to buy.
Cheers
rayC
Track by track. I really wish we could do it as the whole band, at least as a scratch track to build upon. Unfortunately, I'm stuck with a stock soundcard with 2 channels of input. I have trouble recording DRUMS, let alone the whole band.MadAudio said:I've been scanning through this thread again, and a question comes to mind - during the inital tracking was the whole band playing together? Or are you doing this track by track?