Recording effects separate

FrankD77

FrankD77

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I love rack effects, especially for the price you can buy them now a days.
Although I feel they sound better, they are pretty limiting when recording at home and the tracks keep adding up.
Because in the past tracks were limited I never used this technique, but decided to test it today and it works like a charm so I thought maybe to share it here.

I'm using a MX300 as example.

In my DAW I send my guitar to the guitar bus on output 5/6 on the X32
on the guitar bus I'm using the I/O plugin that routes directly to the SPDIF of the MX300.
On the guitar bus I select output 29/30 as my standard return to the X32 for external effects.

At this moment I can make a fast wet dry mix on the X32 or with the IO plugin if you don't have an external console.
The important thing is that you send the signal to a bus because the bus gets it own output for the next step.
As an extra step I now also create an extra channel with the input of the MX300 output and record that at the same time.

Advantages:
After the recording I have 2 tracks.
One dry guitar and one 100% wet
afterwards I can change the balance which fits better in the mix.
I can now use the MX300 on a different preset for other instruments and do the same thing.

The two tracks I combine in a folder stack to keep them together and in a group for editing/comping.
And if you don't like the effect afterwards because you have a dry track you can also change the effect by routing it through the IO plugin again.

ps.
I also use a splitter for a 3rd 100% clean signal. Sometimes this can be very handy for syncing more distorted guitars or fatten up a mix with a clean or IR guitar sound.

For the pro's probably a well know principle, I was pleasantly surprised how many advantages it brings when you have limited gear and don't want to commit.
 
I will be able to do this on my SSL XL Desk.
Send it to ext effects on the stereo cue bus, or aux bus, and back on the stereo returns.
The stereo returns can feed into the main mix to listen, but they also have outputs to DAW.
Not even turned it on yet.
You beat me to it.
 
I could do it via the x32 too
But have to change racks or get longer cables for spdif or trs so i opted for the daw.

But I'll try that route too ;)
Already ordered the trs ;)
 
The two tracks I combine in a folder stack to keep them together and in a group for editing/comping.
And if you don't like the effect afterwards because you have a dry track you can also change the effect by routing it through the IO plugin again.
Do you use a DAW in your setup?

I also use a splitter for a 3rd 100% clean signal. Sometimes this can be very handy for syncing more distorted guitars or fatten up a mix with a clean or IR guitar sound.
For the pro's probably a well know principle, I was pleasantly surprised how many advantages it brings when you have limited gear and don't want to commit.
Interesting approach. - the only thing I see with using rack effects is the limitations - which maybe be an advantage in that you have to commit to sounds - but I would never have 25 compressors on hand if I needed them for the tracks - still kind of old school that harkens back.
 
I'm using logic
In logic I'm using a bus because that can be send to a different output. If you just play or don't need to record the effect separate you can also use the IO plugin straight on the track and use the wet/dry slider.

Because you record the effect seperate there is no more limit to the amount of effects you can use from one device. And mix them later for balance ;)

It eats tracks but it's all audio so doesn't cost you any processing power.
 
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