recording drums for use with drumagog

[cmyhre]

Ok so instead of going back and fixing a bad recording using drumagog I know I'm going in this time with sub-par equipment and room. I was considering close micing each drum individually and skipping the overheads all together. Having each cymbal on a seperate track would mean less work for me, should I just throw a dynamic mic (57, 58, 609 etc) on the snare, hat, kick, each tom and each cymbal? I'll be using drumagog to get the mic'ed sounds into midi and then dkfh custom and vintage for the sampling/ programming after that. Is this a solid plan to get the most out of a bad room, kit?

 

[Farview]

If you are going to trigger the cymbals using drumagog, yes. If you are trying to keep the real cymbals in the mix, no. Cymbals don't like to be close mic'd. If you are trying to keep the real cymbals, just use overheads. In the mix, use a high pass(low cut) filter to take everything under 600 hz out. That will get rid of the nasty room and most of the drums, leaving you with the shimmery part of the cymbal sound left for the mix. 600hz is a starting point, you can slide it up or down depending on what the problems are. This will work fine.

 

[cmyhre]

The drummer, despite being a very good drummer has the wors cymbals I've ever seen so I think I'm going to be sampling everything. Thanks for the highpass filter tip, if I had a dencent set of cymals to work with that would be the way to go.

 

[Farview]

You are going to have a very hard time trying to get the cymbal mics to trigger. You will probably have to do a lot of editing to make this work.

BTW most of the yucky sound in a cymbal is in the low end, the high pass might fix that as well. (as long as the cymbals aren't broken) I've done this with ZBT hi hats with success.