Recording audio tracks

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Recording audio tracks

Hi,


In my HS 2002 is it possible to record simultaneously (whew!) 3 audio tracks where each of these tracks has specific midi tracks directed on.

I must say that my midi tracks are set to a GigaStudio input

Example:

Audio track 7 : Midi tracks 1,2 (Channels 1,2)
Audio track 8 : Midi tracks 3,4 (Channels 3,4)
Audio track 9 : Midi tracks 5,6 (Channels 5,6)


SergeD
 
Hey, it's a question or some kind of test ? :D

Anyway, HS 2002 won't allow you to record more than 2 audio tracks simultaneously, no matter what's the input. SONAR will.

;)
Jaymz
 
Hi James,

No it's not a test, but perhaps a stupid question !

I guess you mean that HS has one stereo or two mono recording audio track limits.

If I would use sonar, is my question would be less dumb ?

Because I use my 16 channels in an orchestration score. I want to group strings, brass etc in 5 different audio tracks and use FX3 to simulate a real orchestra stage.

But muting midi tracks to get each group on audio tracks once by once is a long process to finalize.


SergeD
 
I believe Sonar will handle your task, just make sure you have powerfull PC to do so. I mean, hosting Giga and SONAR in the same machine will squeze your PC power (specially HD) when they run simultaneously. But yes, I believe it can be done, althought I won't guarantee the result. IMHO, do it one by one will make sure the accuracy. Just IMHO.

;)
Jaymz
 
Hello Serge,

If you are using MIDI tracks in HS2002 to trigger GigaStudio instruments, surely it's possible to Export all of the MIDI tracks to a single stereo audio file? Is this what you're trying to achieve?

I regularly do this with HS2002 and the Edirol VSC DXi. I've also done it with VS3 & SoundFonts.

As an alternative, why not mute two MIDI tracks and export each one individually? You could then load the three audio tracks into HS2002. That would probably work although I've no doubt the file size will be proportionally larger.

Using Giga you will certainly notice a vast improvement in quality over VSC. Giga instruments are the best in my opinion. Even better than our beloved SoundFonts. :)

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BluesMeister
 
Thanks James,

I will group only 3 different audio tracks recorded one by one.

Blues,

Thanks for your suggestion. I keep your thread for near future experimentations.

SergeD
 
Using Giga you will certainly notice a vast improvement in quality over VSC. Giga instruments are the best in my opinion. Even better than our beloved SoundFonts.

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BluesMeister
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Giga certainly does kick arse,but it does'nt play nice in Sonar.I just ordered Kompakt because it's DXI,supports disk steaming and imports GIG files(among others).
I certainly don't have golden ears,but why is it a sampled synth sounds better than a software synth?
 
acidrock said:
Giga certainly does kick arse, but it does'nt play nice in Sonar.
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I'll take your word for that, Acid. It played fine for me in PA7, but I was using GigaSamplerLE and could only compose and play MIDI files. It wouldn't record for me because the LE version restricts you to two outputs - and they are taken up by Giga..

There are plenty of people using GigaStudio and SONAR. You'd need to toddle over to tascam.com and check out the GigaStudio BB. Certainly you need a very grunty PC in order to run Giga without pops & clicks.
I just ordered Kompakt because it's DXI, supports disk steaming and imports GIG files(among others).
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Same with VSampler3 :) Gotta love those Giga instruments though. I have two drum samples and two bass guitar samples and two electric piano samples plus the awesome GigaPiano. When I get my upgraded PC, I'll be using these Gigas with VS3...
I certainly don't have golden ears,but why is it a sampled synth sounds better than a software synth?
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Well I don't really know, so I'm guessing here,

sampled synth=wav files of original analogue wave form
software synth=algorhithm to recreate original analogue wave form

Like I said, I don't really know. ;)

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BluesMeister
 
acidrock said:
I certainly don't have golden ears,but why is it a sampled synth sounds better than a software synth?
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I would say that depends on the algorithm. If it's good written, then you shouldn't be able to hear the difference between an sampled instrument and an softsynth.

Example: Hammond B4! There is nothing like it! You can sample all the B3's you want and the B4 will still sound better! And you can adjust every parameter available on the original.... :)
 
There are plenty of people using GigaStudio and SONAR. You'd need to toddle over to tascam.com and check out the GigaStudio BB. Certainly you need a very grunty PC in order to run Giga without pops & clicks.
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I run Giga 32 with Sonar but you have to open Giga first,then open Sonar from within Giga.You also have to record from your main monitor instead of an assigned output.
One other thing is Giga uses a different driver than Sonar so latency in programs other than Giga become affected by it's prioritisation of resources.
 
Meaning latency is high or low?
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With Giga being first in line it has low latency.Sonar being opened from within Giga now is second in line for resources.I used to have to raise my latency to run without dropouts,but then this would kill input monitoring and be basically back to PA9.

I WANT TO HAVE MY CAKE AND EAT IT TOO!
 
acidrock said:
I run Giga 32 with Sonar but you have to open Giga first, then open Sonar from within Giga.
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Yes, I was aware of this particular limitation from when I installed GigaSampler LE. I had so much grief whenever I tried to open PA7 as a standalone because of Giga! It hogged my soundcard's outputs irrespective of the fact that GS wasn't running. In the end I had to uninstall GS LE. But, oh to hear my MIDI compositions with those Giga instruments!
You also have to record from your main monitor instead of an assigned output.
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I never actually got that far. :)
One other thing is Giga uses a different driver than Sonar so latency in programs other than Giga become affected by it's prioritisation of resources.
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Yes the GSIF drivers (GigaStudio InterFace). But surely they'd work under SONAR? I mean TASCAM would have be NUTS not to have tested GS with SONAR. I know that GS deals with Windows at the kernel level, which is apparently why it is capable of low latency.

So the best solution is a DXi sampler that will disk-stream and import Gigas, and a Cray Super Computer! :D

Have you had a look at VSampler3 yet?

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BluesMeister
 
moskus said:
Hammond B4! There is nothing like it!
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Is there a Hammond with Leslie? I just love those Leslie effects. :) They sound so cool.

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BluesMeister
 
For people interested about Gstudio,

I don't use GigaStudio because it is a lot of problems for my computer. I suspect the QuickSound Database or the disk streaming patent to freeze my computer.


Instead I load my gig files in GsEdit. Each instrument has is own patch. Then I load my score with all the set patch in Hs and it works very well. My computer has 1 Gig ram and there are 2 gig files in GsEdit along with HS. So no disk streaming, only cache and it is great.

SergeD
 
James Argo said:
BluesMeister... I found this support page for Terratec EWX24/96 customer...
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Thanks Jaymz. I may have this latest driver already installed, I'll check tonight when I get home. I also have to critique Verlegen for Pedullist tonight too.

I have a link to the Terratec dirver's page on my PC at work so I can check in my lunchbreak. Honest! ;)

You won't be disappointed with the Terratec EWX24/96 if you decide to buy one Jaymz. However, the EWS88MT and the EWS88D may be worth looking at because they are multi-input cards.

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BluesMeister
 
Yes the GSIF drivers (GigaStudio InterFace). But surely they'd work under SONAR?
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Oh they work all right,it's just that I have to raise the latency of the WDM drivers to avoid dropouts.
So the best solution is a DXi sampler that will disk-stream and import Gigas, and a Cray Super Computer!

Have you had a look at VSampler3 yet?
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I'm awaiting arrival of Kompakt,I could'nt wait for the finished realease of V3 and did'nt want to install a beta version even if it was free.
I don't use GigaStudio because it is a lot of problems for my computer. I suspect the QuickSound Database or the disk streaming patent to freeze my computer
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Yes,the quick crash data base has never worked properly for me,although I've had no problems with disk streaming.
 
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